Traditionialst vs Inline ?

[deputydon]

It's that time of the year w/ ML seasons going. Some of us have declared our way of thinkin' in the past. But times change. Me I'm still a old timer!!!
What do the rest of you think ?

[stumpjumper]

I would have to say that I am still a Traditionalist, even though outta the 10 or 11 muzzys I bought in the last year, 2 were in-lines. The T/C Scout & the Remmy 700ML. BOTH are nice to shoot & I have alot of fun poppin' caps. But when it comes to the hunt, I may case the Scout with all intentions of using it, but just before I walk out the door, I seem to pick up one of my flinters, or cap locks . I just haven't made up my mind to use one yet. BUT, you never know what time has in-store for ya.

[bounce]

No Change hear, Have absolutly no use for an Inline!! And Can't belive I ever will.

[donnie]

DITTO! patched round ball!

[Bill]

So why would you even want to shoot an inline when you have a perfectly good RB gun in the closet. :?

[Purebred Redneck]

Before I go on my annual rant, I'm going to throw a bomb
I'm actually thinking about going against everything I have ever stood up for in the world of muzzleloading and might look into a Savage muzzleloader for like $550.00. For that I can get a 50 cal stainless, brown laminate stock that shoots smokeless powder (yes as in rifle powder). The thing gets a 300 grain bullet past 2000 fps...good lord!!!


Muzzleloader season was made with one intention - that whoever didn't want to fight like mad during rifle season could just sleep in and go muzzleloader hunting in a couple weeks after the slaughter.
But alas the big money and convience came along and now the idiots I avoided that rifle hunt are figuring on muzzleloader hunting now too. I call them idiots because there're so stupid they have no business owning children let alone guns...let alone take their 5 year old and a gun in the woods.
It just seems the IQ level just isn't there...
People just do stupid things when hunting - and I used to get away from it during muzzleloader season.
But not anymore...

Not sure how many times I've seen on the range or on the old lease someone say - I just bought this muzzleloader last week, I guess these 200 grain bullets are enough because they're expensive. I don't mind hunting with these guys b/c I know I'll be safe - b/c I don't think he's going to do anything but make the cap go off...
Come to think of it, it's the same guy that dropped his 30-30 from the treestand on opening morning. He proceeded to start shooting trees right at daylight as he sighted his gun in from up in the tree. And it's the same guy that later that day jammed his 30-30. How in the hell do you jam a 30-30???
I view it as an invasion by people who have no business doing it in the first place.

But what I say isn't going to change a damn thing. So I might as well get a single shot rifle...I mean muzzleloader...and go hunting.

But for the poll, I'm tradition all the way.

[bounce]

The gun you speak of Red may load from the muzzel and I'm shure one could use black powder in it but thats not why they are buying it! I would only hope the only place it could be used lawfully is with reg rifle seasion And fined about $20,000 if they use it on a black powder hunt!! In are state we were promised a Traditonal deer hunt only!! But because of $$$$$$ they have chose to forget that fact!!!!

[Bubba]

I've said it before and I guess I'll say it again... the technology is here... why not use it... I mean, most of us don't buy a car/truck with break drums if disk breaks are available... why not a ML? We don't buy VHF VCR's because CD's are the thing to have .... We don't buy 8 track tapes because there's MP3 players ...

Now, don't get me wrong... I think that traditional side lock ML's are great but there IS a place for inlines....

[klsm54]

I'm always in the minority here. I guess living in Pennsylvania where we were limited to open sights (no receiver or tang sights let alone scopes), round balls and flintlocks has made me prone to the "mystique" of the in-line.

I see it as a two-fold issue. If you want a challenge, if shooting deer with a center fire rifle has become routine, traditional is the way to go. If it's a challenge you want, an open-sighted flintlock in December in Pennsylvania will give you that challenge.

On the other hand, if you are looking for a way to extend your season and put more meat in the locker, why not scoped up in-line?

The shame of it is that so many traditional shooters want to outlaw in-lines and make every season primitive. Primitive only seasons are fine, but why begrudge another hunter his time in the field. This debate rages in my state, just as the debate between archers and muzzle-loaders over season time.

If the hunters of yesteryear would have been so divided, we would probably never have had archery or muzzle-loader seasons. I'm for muzzle-loader hunting of ALL types. We have enough resistance to our sport with the anti's, we don't need dissension among our own ranks.

United we stand, divided we fall. I'm sure the anti's just get all warm and fuzzy when they see one type of hunter protesting and carrying signs at the state capitol to protest another form of hunting....

[deputydon]

bubba said:

I've said it before and I guess I'll say it again... the technology is here... why not use it... I mean, most of us don't buy a car/truck with break drums if disk breaks are available... why not a ML? We don't buy VHF VCR's because CD's are the thing to have .... We don't buy 8 track tapes because there's MP3 players ...

Now, don't get me wrong... I think that traditional side lock ML's are great but there IS a place for inlines....

Yes there is a place for in-lines..............high powered rifle season!!!!! Than you are back to having a challange.!!!!!!!!

[deputydon]

klsm54 said:

I'm always in the minority here. I guess living in Pennsylvania where we were limited to open sights (no receiver or tang sights let alone scopes), round balls and flintlocks has made me prone to the "mystique" of the in-line.

I see it as a two-fold issue. If you want a challenge, if shooting deer with a center fire rifle has become routine, traditional is the way to go. If it's a challenge you want, an open-sighted flintlock in December in Pennsylvania will give you that challenge.
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I would love it if Nebraska would make our ML season a traditional only like yours......As for in-lines what I said earlier still applies. Use it during High powered season!

[bounce]

Nebraska did D*D They just chose not to inforce it = $$$$$ Yes if you take that stand then there is no reasion to have a muzzel loading seasion just one for all Or whatever you got that's fine use it, in that case the BAR's & ect. deffinatly would win out like disk brakes!! And a fun sport would be in the tank and kinda is with inlines anyway!!

[donnie]

I'm with DD and Bounce the point behind using a muzzleloader should be the additional challenge. Why in hell does everyone hafta make everything so easy on themselves?!? these inlines shooting 200+ yards with 3-9 power scopes is just a bunch of crap! Buy a single shot .30-30 if you just wanna kill deer or maybe buy a steer, let him amble around the pasture for a day or two then get dressed up in scentlock, spray carbon crap all over yourself, go get in your carbon pop-up blind, Which you must ride your 4 wheeler out to, shoot the poor bastard and be done with the whole F@#$%^G thing. Why actually invest any effort into a hunt at all?

[Jack]

This topic reminds me of what used to go on among bowhunters.... "those new fangled compound bows are ruining archery" yadda, yadda, yadda....
I use a traditional ML, and like it that way. But, progress and innovation continue, and now the guys who aren't ML enthusiasts can hunt ML seasons, too- with the in lines.

[bounce]

Exactly the "pont" Jack The Seasion was created for traditinal enthusiast not the general masses of hunters. But was Hijacked by the push & $ of inlines, Sales of Deer permits rocketed and the DNR says boy this money is great!!! Well will just not enforce are promeses to the origanal peaple That lobbyed us & worked with us to draft a Muzzel loading seasion in the 1st place because were takeing in money we had never dreamed of before!!