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Post by deputydon on Mar 11, 2009 14:42:46 GMT -5
I just got a "new to me" HOPKINS & ALLEN ARMS COMPANY, pre-1902 falling block 12 ga. shotgun w/ a 32" barrel. No it won't get painted CAMO!!!
I'll do some research tonight on it and let you guys know more. I don't know at this point if I have to use black powder loads or "light" skeet loads in it. BUT it WILL kill a turkey this spring........
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Post by bounce on Mar 11, 2009 17:08:13 GMT -5
The one holding it.
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Post by bounce on Mar 11, 2009 17:16:44 GMT -5
Looked it up, not a lot said but $100 to $275 if a 12 ga.
Does this mean I must use my tip over block with 40" barrel?
Or can I still use my break open Long Tom with 40" barrel?
And can I wear my red hunting shirt? LOL.
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Post by deputydon on Mar 11, 2009 17:21:56 GMT -5
A little more:
Firearms history relates that Hopkins & Allen Co. produced “falling block” single shot shotguns in most gauges from 1887 into the early 1900’s. Falling blocks in 12 ga. were on heavy frames while the other gauges were on a medium frame. After 1902, “tip over” single shots were made in Forehand designs and later in Davenport designs. This old Hopkins & Allen is the earlier falling block type. It is lever operated with exposed hammer and this piece has a 32” barrel, probably a Goose Gun as they were offered in barrel lengths up to 40”.
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Post by Bill on Mar 12, 2009 0:21:09 GMT -5
Sounds about right to me. Hope you enjoy it. Needs some cleaning but that shouldn't take Two Moons long to do. ;D Hey I have to quit that. 6 years and I have yet to get one finished for me. ;D One of these days I will just sell them to him.  |
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Post by deputydon on Mar 12, 2009 7:18:45 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up and the shotgun Bill!!!! I'll think of you when I kill the first bird....
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Post by twomoons on Mar 12, 2009 8:50:38 GMT -5
Dam'n Bill I got one of yours on the bench NOW! I will be sending you the Warnant in the next couple of weeks. DD still has the Stevens and I am still trying to get the Marlin to work the way I want it to. The hand made breech lock timing is really tricky. I haven't had much shop time since wind towers and people keep bringing in stuff when i am not home.
The H/A shot gun would be safest with b/p loads as it is a low pressure action, but I do have the low pressure VINTAGER smokless loads here too. They are 6000 lup and are made for the old guns and for 2 1/2" chambers.
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Post by deputydon on Mar 12, 2009 21:03:16 GMT -5
Did you get the H&A sent out yesterday Bill ?
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Post by Bill on Mar 12, 2009 21:15:59 GMT -5
I went in today (day off) and checked to make sure it had been shipped.  Nope its still there on the shipping bench. It got so busy last night that it didn't get packed and then today if I had not went in and checked I would have about a dozen more that didn't get shipped. IF the phone quits for a while in the morning it will get sent out. Sorry about that but it seems EVERONE is taking money out of savings and putting it into guns right now. Something is going on and I'm not sure what but man their killing me. Can't stay off the phone long enough to get them shipped. I will make sure that yours is the first one shipped in the morning D-D Two Moons. I really don't care when you get them done but I do like to give you a bad time about it. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D So take my comments for what their worth.  |
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Post by jimh on Mar 12, 2009 21:40:09 GMT -5
i don't know what's getting harder to find these days, guns or the ammo to put in them!
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Post by deputydon on Mar 13, 2009 6:58:24 GMT -5
It was been getting tougher to get certain calibers of loaded ammo. And Bill tells me that powder is getting harder to keep in stock too.
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Post by Bill on Mar 13, 2009 10:46:16 GMT -5
Part of the problem with keeping things in stock are the hoarders. Their buying in mass quantity's. Their building up a stock that will keep them going at least 3-4 years without needing more and on top of that buying more.  Those that are just wanting to get enough to ahead for 1 year are having a heck of a time finding enough to reload with. Same with a lot of other things like primers, bullets etc. The company's are all working overtime to produce enough but are not keeping up with it. I needed about 8 lb's of Varget for the year for my .308 reloading and about 2 lbs of Retumbo and 6 lbs of H335 for the year but every time some comes in its already sold when it hits the floor. Try finding any Berger match bullets in .308 180 grain. Next to impossible. I'm going to have to go back to the Sierra 175's. |
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Post by Bubba on Mar 13, 2009 15:33:49 GMT -5
pics?
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Post by Bill on Mar 14, 2009 8:09:00 GMT -5
Yup, Two Moons is going to have to do some TLC. I tried to take it down so that it could be shipped broke down and put oil on it and let it soak and it just would not come apart. I don't want to ship it in one piece as one of the illustrious UPS workers might decide he needs a bridge and use the box to make it with. Its how they break so many guns for people. Most of the UPS drivers I have met are nice people but their warehouse people cannot be the brightest bricks on the block.
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Post by bounce on Mar 14, 2009 9:09:15 GMT -5
Sounds like shiping is going to cost more than the gun? LOL.
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Nope its still there on the shipping bench. It got so busy last night that it didn't get packed and then today if I had not went in and checked I would have about a dozen more that didn't get shipped. IF the phone quits for a while in the morning it will get sent out. Sorry about that but it seems EVERONE is taking money out of savings and putting it into guns right now. Something is going on and I'm not sure what but man their killing me. Can't stay off the phone long enough to get them shipped. I will make sure that yours is the first one shipped in the morning D-D
