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Post by jabba on Mar 21, 2006 8:00:22 GMT -5
I have read few threads referring to the ongoing inline vs traditional debate and thought I'd rehash it again.
Traditionalist... are you willing to admit, that what you REALLY want is a season to yourself, where you get to hunt anywhere you want and not see other hunters?
If so I ask... what if all the inline people bought or built traditional rifles and you got your season but it was still full of people following your rules?
How would you then attempt to make it so only you and your buddies had a season that excluded the masses?
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Post by Bill on Mar 21, 2006 8:53:02 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D ;D-------------  Good thought there Jabba. |
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Post by bounce on Mar 21, 2006 9:39:11 GMT -5
Hope you can talk yourself and all your inline buddys into that Idea soon!!
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Post by klsm54 on Mar 21, 2006 9:46:53 GMT -5
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Post by jabba on Mar 21, 2006 12:52:31 GMT -5
Was there an answer in there somewhere?
Would you be happy if the season was held to your utopian idea of traditional standards, and every Tom, Dick, Harry and Jabba bought a cheap arse CVA gun that met the "traditional" rules, and your season was still over run with yahoo's everywhere?
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Post by jimh on Mar 21, 2006 13:19:53 GMT -5
ohhhhhhhh this just might get ugly. ;D sure wish i had one of them there smilely thingys where he is a munching on popcorn waiting for the next reply, i would have posted that right about now. |
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Post by bounce on Mar 21, 2006 14:56:37 GMT -5
All Traditional Muzzel loading Hunters started with something, May as well be a CVA if that's your Choice jabba. But while your thinking of what gun you want you can get started on makeing the proper out fit to were allso, you can go cheep their too or spend a grand You still will have many Choices But can forgett the bad choice you made buying a inline.
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Post by deputydon on Mar 21, 2006 16:03:20 GMT -5
I have read few threads referring to the ongoing inline vs traditional debate and thought I'd rehash it again. Traditionalist... are you willing to admit, that what you REALLY want is a season to yourself, where you get to hunt anywhere you want and not see other hunters? If so I ask... what if all the inline people bought or built traditional rifles and you got your season but it was still full of people following your rules? Jabba That's a pipe dream and your a pot-stir-er LOL,LOL. BTW I didn't start this one .......... |
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Post by jabba on Mar 21, 2006 16:47:09 GMT -5
I am a pot stirrer... but I mean no rotten feelings. Sincerely. I just think it's healthy to talk about it, and there have been a lot of inuendos in other threads so I know it's still a BURNING issue.
No ill intent I swear. I'd like to have a traditional old gun, and a season to use it in. Now... 20 years ago I bought what I could to have the best tool at my disposal, and I have to say, my inlines sure have been good. 35 deer, very few misses and only one failure to fire and that was my fault loading an ugly green #11 cap. Operator error.
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Post by donnie on Mar 21, 2006 18:28:55 GMT -5
Yes I would be very happy then Jabba! Now for the reversal, How about we let people with single shot 30-06 rifles hunt during the inline season? They too would have no missfires, also very few misses out to around 400 yards which is about double your range and it would be the best tool for the job, If killing deer is your sole reason you hunt.
The argument you will get from most traditional hunters is that for us it is not just another season to go kill yet more deer proving that we are hunters to others around us.
Hell yes Jabba go buy a reproduction traditional gun! No-one among us is gonna give ya crap for owning a CVA.
As for the statement that the rules are ours; When many muzzle loading seasons were set up it was intended to be a primitive hunt. My thought is that most inline shooters would switch to the single shot .30-06 if they were allowed the opportunity! They are only looking for the easiest weapon to opporate with as little work as possible that will kill deer in the easiest way possible. I don't mind if there is a sepperate season for inlines either but why don't we just let everyone hunt with inlines during the archery season too? I bet you could go out and get ya another deer! WOW!! think of the opportunities!!!
So why don't you admit that you just wanna kill deer and have no other interest in hunting.
I mean no hard feelings here either Jabba just trying to help you see our side of the equasion!
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 21, 2006 21:52:18 GMT -5
Now for the reversal, How about we let people with single shot 30-06 rifles hunt during the inline season? GRIN ;D ;D ;D Ok Jabba, you know me and you know I'll answer your questions straight (until you back me in the corner and then I'll try to BS my way out of it by changing the subject and asking you questions...) 1. A season for ourselves? Sure, that's what we want. We want it the way it used to be. You have a choice a. hunt with modern rifles with the masses b. hunt with an "inferior" gun (god help me b/c I'm going to get flamed by my own caplock crowd here) but in a more natural setting. 2. If the state made inlines, scopes, glowsites, and synthetic stocks illegal - I would not be mad if everyone up and decided to buy a woodstocked caplock. I'd be annoyed as hell with those people (b/c as donnie said they're finding an excuse just to go out and kill some more, but they are following the rules. Muzzleloader season should be an alternative to rifle season - not an extention of. If you want a rifle tag, you buy a rifle tag and hunt your two weeks. If you want a muzzleloader tag, you hunt your two weeks (or four weeks but you gotta use your muzzleloader during rifle season too) on your blackpowder tag. 3. How to exclude the masses? Very simple, I believe the masses are full of idiots. After a few years they'll realize a real caplock gun is too big of a pain for them to handle. They'll quit and watch football. |
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Post by bounce on Mar 22, 2006 0:19:34 GMT -5
donnie would I be let in your inline 30-06 seasion with my H&R hamerless 30-30, now that's a true inline no funky hammer. smooth & sleak with no bolt, no mosture probles hear ether it seals right up when closed, heck I will really ruff it with no scope even anf just use it's iron sights. I have ben wondering were I would ever use this jwell ? looks like inline seasion would be perfict for it but is it 30-06 only with inlines? Oh hell I'll just use it anyway when they start this new inline seasion
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Post by klsm54 on Mar 22, 2006 0:25:06 GMT -5
................. 3. How to exclude the masses? Very simple, I believe the masses are full of idiots. After a few years they'll realize a real caplock gun is too big of a pain for them to handle. They'll quit and watch football. Why do I get into these threads?...  ...I'm a firm believer in everybody, traditionalists and in-liners living in harmony. But that ain't happenin'! I do think Red has hit on a solid theory. I saw it here in PA. When they opened the whole state to flintlock hunting (it started out on a few select state gamelands) the masses flocked to stores buying flintlocks. For a year or two there were lot's of hunters out there, but the "idiots" got tired of it real fast. They didn't really stand much chance of killing anything, and they probably ruined their rifles that first year. But, another good point Red, the masses are full of idiots, so you can never get rid of all of them, no matter what the rules are...  |
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Post by donnie on Mar 22, 2006 0:32:35 GMT -5
ROFLMAO!!! Hell yeah Bounce why would we want a challenge in hunting?!!
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Post by donnie on Mar 22, 2006 0:37:37 GMT -5
BTW... I'm on the phone with Bill as I write this. He is laughing his a$$ off and saying he won't get involved in this one. But we all know sooner or later it will be too much and he'll be in here stirring the pot himself!
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Good thought there Jabba. 
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...I'm a firm believer in everybody, traditionalists and in-liners living in harmony. But that ain't happenin'! 