|
Post by jimh on Dec 29, 2009 8:27:27 GMT -5
well the trade for the Burris 4x was a complete disaster. the eye releif on the Burris is sooooo longggg that i can't keep my arms out far enough and be comfortable to shoot the thing. Burris advertises it's eye releif for their pistol scopes at 16"-20" but it seems more closer to 22". so i'm sending it back to the guy and i will either sell the 2x i have outright and buy something new or just use the 2x for a while and make it work. talk about disapointment.
|
|
|
Post by deputydon on Dec 29, 2009 19:43:27 GMT -5
Dumb question.... Are you SURE you tryed to adjust the eye relief both ways and it's not stuck ?
|
|
|
Post by jimh on Dec 29, 2009 23:13:22 GMT -5
DD to my knowledge there is no way to adjust eye releif. yes you can focus the Occular to bring the cross hairs into focus but that does not adjust eye releif. you can adjust (if you have an AO scope) the focal plane to remove paralax but again that does nothing for eye releif. i'm not sure what you are refering to
|
|
|
Post by jimh on Dec 30, 2009 8:18:43 GMT -5
by the way, the pistol does have offset rings and i do have the scope as far forward as i possibly can get it. the only other way to get it further away from me is for my arms to grow a few inches. that my friends just isn't in the picture. it just has too dang much eye releif built into the scope.
|
|
|
Post by jmarriott on Dec 30, 2009 11:38:28 GMT -5
I switched up to a 4x scope on my ruger handgun and seem to like it, but The 2 power did not show my shakes as much. The burris 2-7 handgun scope is what I am now eyeing for my contender. Burris makes nice handgun scopes and even with me preferring smaller magnification scopes the contender is worth the extra optic cost. The 4 power is a Swift premiere series and it went on the mark II so now I have the contender set up with the 357 barrel and open sights. The swift has preformed very well with a hard recoil of the 35 rem for 20 years. Consider a harris bipod. I mounted mine on a 35 rem barrel with the ar-15 barrel mount, in the folded carry setup i can push forward on the rubber feet with the non trigger hand and pull back on the grip with the trigger hand. A very strong and steady hold offhand if I have to. I prefer a shooting stick but sometimes you have to shoot offhand. I also just attached a sling on the bi-pod front and added a swivel in the grip and sling it like a small rifle for carry. I think I am missing out on a 222 barrel for my contender. price with t/c lobo scope and octagon 10 inch barrel 150 dollars. I hope we get more snow tonight as I can go into the new neighborhood and shovel snow for it tomorrow. I got a picture of the old setup on photobucket. I got sparked into retooling the handgun after I got my buck this year with the rifle. In the second photo you can see the bi-pod attached all the way at the front sight and with the legs folded it make a real nice platform for a steady hold. I have never taken the bipod off this barrel. I don't want to see what i now looks like under it. If it was not my major hunter barrel I would have attached the bi-pod in the normal spot under the forearm.
|
|
|
Post by jimh on Dec 30, 2009 12:31:45 GMT -5
i have to admit i find myself cringing even thinking about bolting anything to one of my barrels. but on the bright side i can mount a bipod to the stock. have been giving the shooting stick meathod a lot of thought though.
|
|
|
Post by xphunter on Nov 30, 2010 12:44:08 GMT -5
Sorry for being gone so long guys. I lost the link when my computer fried. i finally emailed a friend and got the link. Ernie
|
|
|
Post by jimh on Nov 30, 2010 13:51:18 GMT -5
Ernie glad you're back. need your opinion, i was just offered to trade my Leupold M8 2x for a newer Leupold FX2 4x (plus a small amount of cash) and i am wondering if i'll run into any of the same sort of issues i had with the burris 4x. i'm starting to really get comfy behind this stryker and i beleive with just a tweak of optic performance i could really wring this thing out to my capabilities but i doubt i will reach it's capabilities.
|
|
|
Post by xphunter on Nov 30, 2010 13:54:18 GMT -5
Jim, You are going to have to explain some thing to me, is the FX2 4x a long-eye-relief scope? Remind of the issues with the Burris 4x. E
|
|
|
Post by jimh on Nov 30, 2010 14:16:31 GMT -5
Jim, You are going to have to explain some thing to me, is the FX2 4x a long-eye-relief scope? Remind of the issues with the Burris 4x. E all of them are a pistol scope. leupold usualy advertises 18" eye relief but burris goes over 20" i have to check the FX-II specs. also how much more critical is the eye box with the 4x than the 2x. that was the other big issue, if i so much as twitched that image would wink at me and made it very hard for me to maintain a good site picture.
|
|
|
Post by jimh on Nov 30, 2010 14:23:50 GMT -5
yep the FX-II eye releif is listed as 18" BUT the FOV is half of what that 2x is. i'll go from 20' to 9' so i'll have to consider that.
|
|
|
Post by xphunter on Nov 30, 2010 14:44:40 GMT -5
The 2-7 Burris LER has about the best FOV of any variable out there. There will always be a trade-off between magnification, eye relief, and FOV You will need to decide the distances you want to shoot, and which scope will fit you the best. That is one of the reasons why the majority of my SP's have good muzzle brakes and rifle scopes on them now.
It takes a lot of practice to get used to LER scopes. once you do, you will be amazed how quickly you can see through he scope and find your target or game. E
|
|
|
Post by jimh on Dec 5, 2010 22:28:44 GMT -5
well i agreed with the trade so my 2x leupold is being shipped out tomorrow morning and i should have the 4x before the weekend. i went to Cabelas over the weekend and looked through the same fx-II 4x scope. i think it'll work (better work for me) so we'll find out in the next week or two. hope this all don't turn out to be a mirror of Red's luck.
|
|
|
Post by xphunter on Dec 5, 2010 22:32:55 GMT -5
Good for you-Congrats!
|
|
|
Post by jimh on Dec 10, 2010 20:13:51 GMT -5
Dumb question.... Are you SURE you tryed to adjust the eye relief both ways and it's not stuck ? BTW i thought i should fess up to something i just found out today. according to Leupold instructions, when adjusting the occular to sharpen the view of the cross hairs for the individual shooter, not only does it bring the cross hairs into focus like adjusting any other rifle scope, but on pistol scopes it does effect eye releif too. not using pistol scopes before i had no idea it would do that. leupold goes on to say it will only effect eye releif on pistol scopes not their rifle scopes. i do not know if the same holds true on pistol scopes in general or if this is a Leupold only thing. but i thought it only fair to mention this new revelation in optic performance that i was unawarew of. anyway i receive the scope today and all looks to be in fine order and i hope to get it out to the range yet tomorrow.
|
|