Gila
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and a Vernier sight. It's marked up to twelve-hundred yards. This one shoots a mite further.
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Post by Gila on Mar 5, 2007 23:19:26 GMT -5
I think you're Muntjac are bigger then the ones I hunted in England Sebastian. I know they will not even come close to 50 pounds. pretty small. Here's a picture of the one I took and he's #9 overall European record according to SCI. Check this out from the SCI website...
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Post by sebastian on Mar 6, 2007 8:35:51 GMT -5
Jason, Your body seems big...& perhaps the deer "looks" smaller?...but if the biggest European muntjac deers (or the SCI record) only weight less than 50 lbs...our local deers are bigger, for sure!....I mean in several areas (not all). Their horns also bigger & longer, overhere. I have a handy schale that I usually bring when hunting, and I'm pretty good to judge gross/nett weight on deers (& hogs), so I wouldn't be wrong with the weight of our local muntjacs. Question: how to measure score for this deer?
I think I will try to prepare a day or two for a hunt, soon. I'll take pics & show you the local muntjac deers. I have a hunting fields in "Jombang" (about 2 hours drive) but the deers aren't big, usually. More to the east (about 5-7 hours drive, around Mount Ijen in Bondowoso, or around Mangli in Jember, or around Banyuwangi), I have several locations which the deers are bigger. Btw, congrats on your results! No. 9 isn't to bad!!
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Gila
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and a Vernier sight. It's marked up to twelve-hundred yards. This one shoots a mite further.
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Post by Gila on Mar 6, 2007 8:57:08 GMT -5
To measure the antlers for the final score is quite easy on Muntjac as the antlers are simple. First measure the length of each main beam. (The length of the actual antler from the base of the antler to the tip along the outside edge to the nearest 1/16 inch). You will then measure the lengths of each small point that will grow from the base in the same manner to the nearest 1/16 inch as well. Finally you measure the circumference of the burr (larger portion at the base) or each antler, also to the nearest 1/16 inch. Now add all of the measurements for the final score. Here's what the score sheet looks like. www.safariclub.org/docs/Method26T_26NTc.pdf
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Post by sebastian on Mar 6, 2007 11:24:36 GMT -5
Thanks you for the data. I still keep one "head?" of this deer...the biggest I got. (three years ago or so). It is very UGLY & dirty! A non typical, I think?...since the left antler has three tines. Okay.... The right antler has 7 6/16" main beam, one tine 1 4/16", circumference of burr 5 3/16" The left antler has 6 15/16" main beam, three tines (not sure it's two or three tines??) 1 5/16", 1 3/16", and 4/16", circumference of burr 5 2/16". Then the total score should be approx 28 10/16 inches.... I believe there are deers out there that more bigger than this... Unfortunately I don't know how to post photos in this forum???...but I can take some pics & email them if you want. To the best I can measure, seb.
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Post by sebastian on Mar 6, 2007 12:57:19 GMT -5
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Post by sebastian on Mar 6, 2007 13:00:01 GMT -5
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Post by sebastian on Mar 6, 2007 13:02:04 GMT -5
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Post by sebastian on Mar 6, 2007 13:04:53 GMT -5
Test #3...
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Post by sebastian on Mar 6, 2007 13:19:04 GMT -5
Well, not too bad for a beginner on posting pics...lol. Next time I should be able to do better.
......As I said, the mount is ugly & dirty!!!
I took the pics a moment ago & cannot show you the measurement thing because it's about 12.00 at night now and nobody helped me to hold the mount...so I just show you the proportion between the antler & the "flexible rule?"
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Post by sebastian on Mar 6, 2007 13:42:04 GMT -5
Here is a pic from the guy of the Netherlands. He told me....I found a nice pic of a barking deer throphy!...this one somebody shot over in UK. Never seen one overhere in Holland, so it will be very special....(something like that). .....Seems to me this trophy was bigger than yours, and mine is even bigger??
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Gila
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and a Vernier sight. It's marked up to twelve-hundred yards. This one shoots a mite further.
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Post by Gila on Mar 6, 2007 23:52:41 GMT -5
Yours is definately a different species completely. I have been doing some research and it seems that those are considered one of the various sub-species of Indian Muntjac.
The one you posted that was taken in the UK by the guy from the Netherlands looks to me to have longer main beams but possibly not as big in circumference. I think it is bigger than mine though. I'm sure of it.
Oh, great pictures by the way ... thanks!
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Post by sebastian on Mar 18, 2007 10:07:41 GMT -5
Dutchtrapper, welcome to this forum!!
To my old friends that still not familiar with this guy, let me introduce my new friend, "Dutchtrapper". He is the man who'd come to Indonesia & would do some hunting with me, in September.... I asked (invited) him to see this thread a moment ago, btw.
Well Theun, I think I don't need to ask you to shoot some rounds anymore, lol lol... I am so sorry if there are any words of mine that's not okay for you, in this thread!!!...To be honest, I am a "save type" man/shooter, & that was why I said I still need to ask you to shoot some rounds before the hunt. I just didn't feel okay to ask you about this thing directly to you before. But, you obviously know about guns & have passed the shooting school, theory, & practical exams in Holland....Again, I am sorry!!!
You will shoot for at least 5 deers during your visit, btw. I can guarantee this! However I am not so sure about the hogs, due to the/their "availibilty" in East Java. The hogs has been getting rare, honestly. Anyway.....I can ask my local guides to find, & tie them to a pole or so, so you can shoot it later...LOL LOL...just kidding!
I & my wife can make good "nasi goreng", btw. It's the easiest kind of food to make, lol.
Temanmu, seb.
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Post by dutchtrapper on Mar 18, 2007 12:25:47 GMT -5
Thanks for the intro Seb Well i am Theun (dutchtrapper) and i am from Holland (Netherlands) This is me with an badger i shot under moonlight! I live and hunt/trap in the eastern part of Holland, i also have some hunting ground in Germany (wich is next to Holland) In Holland i hunt small game, roedeer and predator. In Germany i hunt roedeer, fallowdeer, reddeer and wildboar/predator, and we do also driven big game over in Germany!! This is an pic of an driven game day over in Germany. I told Seb not to worrie about the testing shot, i always do that after a long travel, and specially when i am shooting with an strange weapon, and i also now that Seb has the right stuff (Swarovski, Zeiss ) I also told him overhere in Holland/Germany you have to go school for 1 year and do an exam after it (practical and theorie), including a safety and shooting test. But the best school is to practise, so i try to hunt so everyweek. And i am hunting trapping from my 16 year. Most of my hunting i am doing with an Steyer prohunter 7mm rem mag., its an good caliber for all the game overhere. On this moment i am thinking of buying a .22-250 HOWA for night shooting on foxes/varmint en perhaps some bench shooting in the future Since a long time i was looking for an chance to hunt in Indonesia, but couldn't find any info on the net(did find some info on Malaysia), then in got into some posting of Seb , and that was my lucky thing From all the postings from seb, and his website, i now he is an serious/professional men, and i hope we have a good time together. Dutchtrapper
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 18, 2007 14:09:16 GMT -5
Welcome to our forums.
I always look forward to hearing from european hunters as they bring a totally new cultural aspect to the sport.
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Post by sebastian on Mar 18, 2007 15:11:45 GMT -5
Amen.
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