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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 16, 2008 9:17:40 GMT -5
I've done a lot of research on this type of hunt as well and thought I'd throw it out there since it's a little different. allabouturanch.com/index.asp?mid=3&mid2=193This is a place in southern Oklahoma (I don't see a reason to drive to southern Texas). This has a success rate of over 90% despite being on 11,000 acres of free range land (not known to have near that %). If I was to guess, the fencing they put up is partially underground to prevent hogs from escaping. But it's certainly low fence as they offer whitetail deer under normal state regulations. The 2 hogs in the link above look pretty tame (like they are photo ops) but if you look at the other pictures the hogs look more wild. $400 for 2 nights, cabin, and 2 meals a day (probably an evening, full day, and morning hunt but I could inquire). There is likely a discount off a 3rd day of hunting. Also there a 650 acre upland bird preserve (handicap accessable) which they can release quail and pheasant on. I could inquire on the cost of that if we were interested in adding a day of that on. Perhaps we could get 3 days for 500 + tax + tip = $600 I think the price is comparable to any other type of hunt when you consider you normally have to add tags, food, and hotels to the mix. The only negative would be that a deposit of 50% is required and I know there are some health concerns here that might cause people to stay at home as the date nears. It can get pretty hot down there I imagine so the best hunting would either be early spring like late march / early april (flu season) or maybe the first week of November or mid December to avoid everyone's centerfire deer season? There isn't a lot of info about the place on the internet but there are some reviews I found www.bowsite.com/bowsite/OUTFITTERREPORTS/outfitter.cfmSo if anyone is interested in this or something like this, give a reply
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Post by klsm54 on Sept 16, 2008 9:43:42 GMT -5
I was thinking of hogs when this idea started. Most places have a good success ratio, and the price is usually reasonable. If you had the opportunity to throw deer in the mix, that would be a big bonus. Oklahoma's deer season is rather short though, and most likely coincides with most members home state season. There is the muzzleloader season, last week of October, but it may still be warm there. Oklahoma deer hunting is reasonable in price though. $201.00 for a buck tag, $251.00 for a buck and doe tag, and another doe for $50.00. If I was going on a hunt like that, I'd probably opt for 4 days, and go for a hog and two deer..... I'm an old meat hunter, a fat doe and a spike could make me smile. It is possible that you could customize the plan, maybe a 2, 3 and 4 day option with everybody being there, together, for at least 2 days. Depending on budgets, some may want to hunt longer. Since it is such a long drive for us north easterners, I have always liked to optimize my hunting time after putting forth the money and effort to get there. That's why I'd opt for at least 4 days. Now if I was only driving 8-10 hours, I might see it differently and opt for a 2 day stay. Of course these are just rambling thoughts, things to consider, as I can't make the trip.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 16, 2008 11:05:34 GMT -5
I saw the end of the OK muzzlelaoder season was at the end of October. The downside to that is in order to shoot hogs during deer season, you must have a deer tag. With the hunt on private land, I don't know if that changes or not. So someone might be hunting by themselves until the rest of the group gets there.
I don't know if this place would allow multiple deer killed. They say "1 trophy buck (Atleast 8pt & wider than his ears)/ 1doe" which I read as " you can shoot one buck or one doe"
Price really adds up when you go after deer on private land though. $200 for the tag and $1500 for 3 days of hunting. You're spending over 2000 when it's all done and you may not see a decent buck. I think before I spent the large amount of money to hunt deer, I would test the waters with a cheaper hunt on the same property. If the experience is good, then go back in a year or two.
I'll email the ranch just to get a feel for them and the prices on additional days. If that's something we want to concider, I'll call and get some more references.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 16, 2008 13:21:14 GMT -5
www.alexacarri.com/hunt_packages.htmThis is a Georgia location featured on the "Huntley Way" tv show a couple years back. I know they killed a few hogs with bows during/after spring turkey season. Price is a little more than the other location though.
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Post by sebastian on Sept 16, 2008 13:41:08 GMT -5
Red, is that hunt (your first link above) open to foreigner like me? The hogs in that webpage are Hugh! I imagine can hunt with one or two of you in this forum, someday. I did once with Ernie sometime ago for PD. The hogs, or deers, are interesting too.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 16, 2008 14:36:23 GMT -5
Yes sir, we have an open invitation for all of the members here. Regarding those two big hogs in the picture, I'm pretty sure they are domesticated pigs that are bought and sold on the "farmers market". My guess would be someone went to the owner of the property and said "I'd really like to shoot a HUGE pig, can you make that happen?" You've killed enough hogs to know they don't normally look like that or grow that big in the wild. Looking at the other pictures and videos on the site, a more realistic size wild looking hog would be 100-200 pounds. And they admit to that weight range as well so I don't think they are cheeting anyone. It just so happens that big pigs make for good pictures --- that's marketing 101 I did send an email to the folks there and I'm waiting to hear back from them Greetings, I run a small hunting discussion forum on the internet and a group of us are looking to go on a hunt in 2009. I came across your website and thought I would ask a few questions regarding your hog and upland bird hunting. We're in the early stages of planning and we have perhaps 5-8 people interested in hunting early November or early-mid December of 2009. I looked at the Oklahoma deer hunting season and notice voids in the deer season during that time. Looking at your current hunt options, we would be interested in the 2 day/2night/2 hog hunt ($400) but also adding an additional day or two with either hog and / or upland bird hunting. I was wondering what an additional day of hog hunting or bird hunting might run? I understand the "put and take" aspect of the bird hunt directly affects the price. What would be a ballpark figure for a normal amount of quail & pheasants for 5-8 people a day??? We're just trying to get a better grasp of what 3-4 days might cost on your property. If still interested, we will likely have some more questions regarding the operation of the hunt itself.
Thank you in advance Curtis Maness, St. Louis MO curtis.maness@bxs.com
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 17, 2008 9:44:37 GMT -5
curtis, if yall want to do a 3 day/4 night hunt for 3 hogs the price would be $550.00 per hunter if u want to add 10 quail/ 5 pheasants along with the 3 hogs then yall would add another $200.00 per hunter onto the $550.00 for total of $750.00 per hunter. that will get yall 4 nights/ 3 days hunting, private cabins with bedding towels linens fridge stocked with pop,water & snacks, 2 meals a day, transportation to and from hunting area, guides, cleaning of birds, fishing in pond & warm up round of skeet. the only extra charge on yalls trip would be 15.00 per hog to gut them or 35.00 per hog to gut,skin,cape,quarter, & put them in your ice chest or yall are welcome to take care of the hogs yourself at our skining rack and any tips u want to give the guides.if yall want more or less bird we can do what ever yall want number wise.if u want to add another hog onto the 3 for a total of 4 add $150.00 to the hunt total. 3 days/ 4 nights 3 hogs = $550.00 per hunter 3 days/ 4 nights 3 hogs + 10 quail/5 pheasants = $750.00 per hunter 3 days/ 4 nights 4 hogs = $700.00 per hunter 3 days/ 4 nights 4 hogs + 10 quail/5 pheasants = $900.00 per hunter as for the dates, we will be muzzleloader hunting from the last weekend of oct thru the 1st weekend in nov. then rifle season will start the weekend befor thanksgiving and run until dec. 7th so any time before these dates,inbetween muzzleloader & rifle nov.3rd-19th,and after dec. 7th we can accomadate yall. if u are interested please feel free to email or call me and i will fill yall in on any other details yall may need. oh if anyone or all of yall need to be picked up at the airport in oklahoma city we will be more than glad to pick yall up at no extra charge. the one thing i guarentee yall we will do is bust our tails to make forsure yall have a awsome time and hunt while yall are here. i also added a couple pics of hogs at some of the feeders here recently so u can get a look at what u will see if yall decide to come. thanks james west all about u ranch & outfitters, pauls valley,ok. allabouturanch.com ranch 405-238-2355 cell 405-268-2684
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 17, 2008 9:59:07 GMT -5
Although I have never really had a good bird hunt, 200 a day seems about right for what it is but may not be worth it.
Now $550 on the other hand for 3 days and 4 nights is pretty good in my opinion. He did not mention taxes so that may or may not add 50 bucks. Tips, if theres a half dozen people I'm sure 50 bucks would be more than enough.
(2 full days and 2 half days I imagine but that might be negotiable to hunt 3 full days instead giving everyone some leeway time wise in getting there the night before?)
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Post by deputydon on Sept 17, 2008 19:26:07 GMT -5
Is that 3 hogs per person for 550.00 ?
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 18, 2008 8:42:03 GMT -5
Correct
3 hogs (probably under 250 pounds but he didn't specify it --- although in fairness I specifically said we were probably interested in the smaller hogs)
3 days / 4 nights, lodging, 2 meals + snacks.
$550 + tip (optional but I would like to think if we had a good time we would probably each want to give) + tax (Like I said, I don't know about this but even at 8% we're only talking 44 dollars). Quartering is extra but I believe its just like a deer. If two of us work on it, it takes 30-45 minutes to have it in a cooler.
So that's all expenses paid (once we get there) for say $650 at most.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 18, 2008 12:03:56 GMT -5
Doesn't seem like a lot of interest in this.
Shall we scrap it?
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Post by Bubba on Sept 18, 2008 13:22:08 GMT -5
I'd keep it on the back burner... I've never gone hog huntin...
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Post by sebastian on Sept 19, 2008 10:47:20 GMT -5
Red, actually I am interested in hunting hogs in the USA (the Big ones). Unfortunately, it seems that the time (around Nov/Dec) would not be right for me. It should be cold (very cold to me, I guess), and the SuperShoot is in May, about one week before the Memorial Day. Too bad...seb.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 19, 2008 11:06:31 GMT -5
The weather will fool you a bit Most hogs are in the Southern part of the US where nov/dec can be 50-60 degrees in the morning to 70-80 degrees in the afternoon. The rest of the country could be covered in snow or 50 degree highs while you're sipping a margarita and sporting a yellow Speedo. A "true" trophy big russian boar are normally found inside high fence operations (found all over the country). It's a "get you in and get you out" type of hunt that lasts only 1 or 2 days. Cost is still reasonable --- about 800 dollars. But there are concerns about "fair chase" as you are pretty much 100% gauranteed to shoot at one of those big 250-300 pounders.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 19, 2008 11:51:17 GMT -5
Here's some pictures for you sebastian I received another email from the owner this morning These were some pigs killed this week I believe. And they are some pretty impressive hogs (especially the black one because he takes on russian type features more so than the spotted one - who doesn't at all...) Regardless if this is the hunt or not, I will be going there in the next couple years. Perhaps if you're in Ohio you could arrange transportation to St. Louis and we could go.
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