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Post by Bill on Aug 26, 2012 8:15:05 GMT -5
I did some visiting with a guy that sells suppressors. After the visit and some thought on it I think I am going to buy one. The guy said that I can buy one in .308 Cal and as long as I use the same threading on each of my guns I can take it off and use it on any of them from .22 LR all the way to my ,300 RUM. It could prove kind of interesting. He further stated that you get roughly 60% less recoil, shoot from the bench without ear plugs, and the best part is the fact that its total cost including the Tax Stamp is right at $550. I personally know the guy that is building the suppressors for the company which is based out of Sioux Falls area. I found that they just added 80,000 sq ft to the factory that also manufacturers everything for Badger Ordnance. So with all that I have found it should be a good quality product. Now all I have to do is go to work and figure out if this is what I really need. My .300 RUM has a bit slimmer barrel on it that the Varmint barrel guns I have and it seems like it might have to have a thread adapter put on it because of this but all the rest of my rifles will work with no problem. Next is I will have to put in the paperwork for it. ;D
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Post by Jack on Aug 26, 2012 8:55:08 GMT -5
Interesting, Bill. I can see a lot of advantages to suppressors- less recoil, but primarily less noise. The flip side being cost, and ugly.
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Post by deputydon on Aug 26, 2012 14:17:22 GMT -5
. Next is I will have to put in the paperwork for it. ;D Wellllll Bill GOOD LUCK The paper goes to your local Sheriff, who fingerprints you as well as signs his life away saying your a "good person" so ....... "They" will find out who you really are and that your really in witness protection then............ But seriously I have done the paperwork for some local guys over a year ago and the Fed's haven't sent them their "permits" yet....
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Post by jmarriott on Aug 26, 2012 16:39:46 GMT -5
I am waiting on my huntertown arms so far 60 days. 300 for the can, tax on can for sales and 200 to the King's men for my right to own. I was told to expect at least a 6 month wait, More as my chief county LEO will only sign LTC and class III on tuesday and thursday from 9 am to 11 am or friday from 1-4 pm. So it took me 2 weeks to make it to him to sign off. Then he wanted to get my vote also. They also hold off on sending in the LTC untill the last of the month so that is a longer wait. No cash out of my 200 dollar tax stamp check yet. I know it is alway good to look local but huntertown has a great warranty. I don't think they make a 30 cal can that handle more than 7.62 x 39. Huntertown Arms warranties its suppressors for life against everything but stupid, •Trying to fire .223 rounds through a .22 suppressor. •Not making sure the suppressor is threaded properly and on the host weapon all the way. •Putting the baffles in backwards. •Firing thousands of rounds without cleaning your suppressor. www.huntertownarms.com/kestrel22.phpI am getting the Kestrel 22 since that is what I first thought I would use the most and Indiana was moving in the Laws to open up hunting with surpresssors but it got held up by the commmitte chair in the senate last session. I figured I would shoot 22 the most and my next tax stamp will make my contender frame a SBR (short barreled rifle) so I can use pistol barrels with a shoulder stock and a 10 inch barrel with a 6 inch can is still a 16 inch long gun. I also want one on a 45 acp but I think I am going with what they call a wet can for that. The first shot in most cans charges to surpressor so the first shot is louder than the rest. A wet can is surpressed on the first shot and I have pulling lube to set it up. One other thing to think about is a pair of welders gloves if you want to touch the can after firing a nice string of fire. Then again lots of the surpressors I shot were attached to full auto hosts and I even saw the gas tube of ar's glow welding rod red with 100 round drums full auto. So that may not apply as much. The other thing I noticed shooting lots of cans in different cal's was the 22, 9mm (147 grain) 38 and 45 ACP were the quite ones, the big rifle one I would still use at east foam inserts as they still crack the whip and make noise rather well. They did not have 300 blackout there but they did have one 300 whisper sub sonic and it was a good match. Gemtech makes a silencer 22 ammo that really groups well in my target rifles. It in not cheap but around the price of wolf or ely, federal match black or gold. It is subsonic with a solid lead bullet. Rem subsonic has a big old hollow point in the front and they do not group nearly as well put out some links on your can I am intrested in non Indiana companies also.
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Post by jmarriott on Aug 26, 2012 16:40:53 GMT -5
Oh and let someone like two moons tread the barrel. cut it wrong and it gets expensive to chop it and do it again.
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Post by deputydon on Aug 26, 2012 16:57:22 GMT -5
Our Chief County LEO is a heckva nice guy !!! He'll sign whenever you come in..... And yea he would ALWAYS like your vote !!!! LOL LOL LOL
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Post by twomoons on Aug 27, 2012 9:34:22 GMT -5
I have done serveral barrel jobs for silencers. Right now the hot setup is threading an adaptor to use an oil filter, and yes it works. The adaptor is serial numbered and IT is the supressor and the oil filter is an insert. I have one ready for a ruger 10-22 and am waiting on the fellows paperwork to come through. I had to give an original Maxim from 1918 to the BATF a while back. A customer came in with his grandfatheres rifle to sell and it had the silencer he bought from Sears in 1918 still on it. This was a super set up as on firing with sub sonic loads you coould hear the firing pin click.
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Post by Jack on Aug 27, 2012 11:10:17 GMT -5
Using an oil filter. . . doesn't something that big block the sight line?
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Post by twomoons on Aug 27, 2012 15:27:04 GMT -5
Depends on the sights it works fine with a red dot, you use to long skinny oil filters for the lawnmowers and compact cars.
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Post by Jack on Aug 27, 2012 15:46:37 GMT -5
". . . long skinny oil filters. . . " Ah, that makes sense. Thanks, Twomoons.
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Post by Bill on Aug 28, 2012 7:14:19 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by jmarriott on Aug 28, 2012 16:21:20 GMT -5
I can see it.
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Post by twomoons on Aug 29, 2012 8:50:25 GMT -5
For all of Europes gun restrictions they actually allow supressors. There is a move underway here to get rid of the restrictions on them also, this has to do with noise as with a supressor you are less likely to disturb the neighbors. With the urbanization of America I can see a time when the restrictions will go away just to allow shooting ranges. I think Shooting Times had a nice article on this a while back.
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Post by bounce on Aug 29, 2012 16:28:16 GMT -5
The benifits outway the detractors seems to me like in hearing as to hearing aides The deer never hear a .243 anyway
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Post by Jack on Aug 29, 2012 16:38:09 GMT -5
I believe some European countries even require suppressors, or are thinking about doing so. For the reasons Twomoons stated, and because of hearing loss that shooters often get, like Bounce said.
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