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Post by deputydon on Mar 9, 2011 20:00:30 GMT -5
I took time out today to see how the "retired" people handle life........ While there 2M's was showing me his TC Contender. That got me to thinking tonight (which is when us "un-retired" SOB's do our thinkin')...... I wonder if I could get a TC contender in 25-06? As a pistol ? And would it be worth a squat as a pistol in 25-06 ?
YOUR THOUGHTS ? ?
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Post by Jack on Mar 9, 2011 20:14:20 GMT -5
It would sure be loud!
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Post by jmarriott on Mar 10, 2011 7:29:30 GMT -5
25-06 is to much for a contender frame. You would need to go to an encore frame. 30-30 35 rem 34-70, 7-30 waters is about the limit in a contender frame. The encore will handle about anything. Because of the weird Indiana deer rules I have shot 308, 270 ans 3006 encore pistols. I think the sweet spot in a conteder frame pistol is the 7-30 waters. It is sweet and accurate at 100 yards like a rifle mine is 14 inch and still an ear ringer. In a pistol they are hand cannons or mini carbines not really pistols at all.  |
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Post by jmarriott on Mar 10, 2011 7:31:59 GMT -5
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Post by deputydon on Mar 10, 2011 8:08:01 GMT -5
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Post by Bill on Mar 10, 2011 8:33:44 GMT -5
One of the guys I hunt with for Antelope uses a .25-06 in a T.C. Encore. He makes some hellish shots with that gun. Last one I seen him do with about 375 on an antelope at a trot. Never seems to be handicapped by the single shot. You should know about that already. Anyway he bought it as a Pistol Frame. When he did his 4473 it was marked as a pistol on the paperwork and designated a pistol. According to our ATF lawyers if you do it that way then there is no problem making it a pistol and also no problem turning it into a rifle. You just can't put a pistol barrel on it with a rifle stock. But you can do anything else to it you wish.
The G2 frame is a designated pistol frame and will take any of the pistol/rifle barrels for the contender frame.
So it might be a good idea but I'm not sure how efficient it will be with a short barrel in a .25-06 but that would also depend on the powder you would be using which in itself would negate any performance you would gain over say a .250 Savage cartridge. But in the end it depends on the barrel length on what it will actually do.
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Post by deputydon on Mar 10, 2011 8:44:26 GMT -5
One of the guys I hunt with for Antelope uses a .25-06 in a T.C. Encore. He makes some hellish shots with that gun. Last one I seen him do with about 375 on an antelope at a trot. Never seems to be handicapped by the single shot. You should know about that already. Anyway he bought it as a Pistol Frame. When he did his 4473 it was marked as a pistol on the paperwork and designated a pistol. According to our ATF lawyers if you do it that way then there is no problem making it a pistol and also no problem turning it into a rifle. You just can't put a pistol barrel on it with a rifle stock. But you can do anything else to it you wish. The G2 frame is a designated pistol frame and will take any of the pistol/rifle barrels for the contender frame. So it might be a good idea but I'm not sure how efficient it will be with a short barrel in a .25-06 but that would also depend on the powder you would be using which in itself would negate any performance you would gain over say a .250 Savage cartridge. But in the end it depends on the barrel length on what it will actually do. What about this ? www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=219541072 |
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Post by xphunter on Mar 11, 2011 0:26:30 GMT -5
7-08 will work great out of a 15" tube
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Post by deputydon on Mar 11, 2011 8:19:08 GMT -5
I have never given much thought to a TC before this........... Now I might have opened a new chapter in my hunting/shooting life..............
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Post by jmarriott on Mar 11, 2011 8:41:30 GMT -5
I got into them in the 1980's when the Indiana deer regulations allowed pistols to be used for deer. I had a smooth bore 870 and it was good for about 5 inches at 60 yards. I got a 35 rem contender and used it for several years and I was good for about 150 yards in a milkjug,
Then i got a 223 rem barrel for it in a pistol. Then a deal came on a 357 mag pistol barrel, then i picked up a rifle barrel in 22 lr match, so I had to get the rifle stock and forarm. Then a octogon barreled 22 lr pistol barrel came along so I had to buy a octogon 10 inch forearm, then 7mm tcu, and 222 rem came along in pistol, soon I got a second frame with 44 mag 45-70 and 7-30 waters, 357 rem jet (I was offered a great amount of cash for it) since it had all those barrels I got someone to make a nice barrel case for the pistol rounds. It is addictive, This is back when most of the barrels were about 135 each new, Now you have to add a 100 dollars to the price.
I use the 35 rem, 7-30 waters in pistol the most, 223 and 22 in the rifle, the 45-70 I could never get to group well and I think someone shot lots of Blackpower out of it so I traded it off for a 10 inch 222 with scope( already had a 14 inch 222 with scope) , For a long time I liked ground hog hunting with the 35 rem. Pick up a chuck after a hit with it and shake it and it feels like a bag of broken bones,
Look in the used market for an original contender in a package with several barrels. Encores I guess you get new. I have shot a 270 and 30-06 encore pistols and it is to much for me. Legal in indiana but not in a rifle. Weird.
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Post by deputydon on Mar 11, 2011 8:44:50 GMT -5
That's what I mean.... It could get interesting....
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Post by deputydon on Mar 11, 2011 8:48:03 GMT -5
This may be a stupid question but,,,,,, will Contender parts interchange with Encore parts ?
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Post by xphunter on Mar 11, 2011 9:11:20 GMT -5
No, they do not interchange. The 7-08 will only work for the Encore. This may be a stupid question but,,,,,, will Contender parts interchange with Encore parts ? |
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Post by deputydon on Mar 11, 2011 21:15:54 GMT -5
I'm finding all kinds of octagon barrels for Contenders but not for Encores. Any ideas ? If I'm gonna try somrthing differant (for me) I'd like to do it w/ an octagon barrel.. Pistol not real interested in a rifle.
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Post by twomoons on Mar 11, 2011 21:20:15 GMT -5
Encore and Pro Hunter interchange, Contender and G2 are different. The 25-06 will lose about 300 fps in a 15" barrel so it will hit at 100 yards like your rifle does at say 250. Since the 25-06 is a good 400 yard deer gun you shouldn't have any problems out to 200 or so but might be dropping a little at 300. I really didn't care for Contenders much till recently, I had a 30-30 44 mag contender in 1975 and HATED it. The old style square grips were so panful to shot that it was no fun and the 30-30 tube was more flame thrower than pistol. With factory loads you got a yard of flame every shot. Then I got a 16" 223 and it was so handy I started in again. I now have 45-70, 7-08, 22 hornet, 22-250, 30-30, and chamber adapters for 32 S and W- 32 Mag and an thinking of converting a Hornet barrel to 218 Bee.
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