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Post by jimh on Jun 20, 2009 20:09:56 GMT -5
don't know if i should put this in rifle or shotgun. i have agreed to terms with the same guy i got the 280 from to trade him my M77 7mm rem mag even up for a Franchi 712 12 ga  |
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Post by bounce on Jun 20, 2009 22:02:37 GMT -5
A good gun for reduced loads, regular shells are lible to kick your face off, but maybe if your wired enouff the gun will fit you?
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Post by jimh on Jun 21, 2009 6:57:45 GMT -5
bounce, i am under the impression that with the gass system that shotgun uses (it is a benelie on the inside) that it should be a real puppy to shoot.
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Post by bounce on Jun 21, 2009 10:12:58 GMT -5
Maybe, .......smiles. at least it looks to have pretty wood.
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Post by Bill on Jun 22, 2009 8:57:14 GMT -5
I remember when Bounce bought his Franchi. He was very proud of it. Then we had a trap shoot. Bounce came back from the stations and had a cherry on his cheek the size of a half dollar. Then he went back up for another round and when he came back that time the cherry was more of a plum. ;D
I tried the gun out just to see how bad it was and man let me tell you. That Gun Was Abusive.
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Post by jimh on Jun 22, 2009 10:06:57 GMT -5
Bill, was that model the gas system model as the 712 or was it the inertia model ? my understanding of the 712 is it is a benelli on the inside. i do not want to get a shotgun that will hammer me. i had another guy on another forum tell me his old model was like what you and bounce desribed in terms of felt recoil, it was a Franchi Al48. i need to figure this out in th enext 24 hrs if there is an issue and i would apreciate any insight. so is the gas system model 712 a shoulder thumper?
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Post by bounce on Jun 22, 2009 11:34:51 GMT -5
I can't say forsure my self jimh, mine was the Al48 I think, but it was the fit more than the kick.
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Post by jimh on Jun 22, 2009 11:44:14 GMT -5
as i researched there were two models of the al48, one with the long throw action where it cyled the barrel during the ejection. the 712 uses the same rotating bolt head design and gas opporating system as the Benelli. however i have not shot a Benelli so that tells me squat. sometimes guns get me like woman, i see the looks and forget to find out about the function untill it's too late!
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Post by jmarriott on Jun 22, 2009 15:54:42 GMT -5
sometimes guns get me like woman, i see the looks and forget to find out about the function untill it's too late! Maybe that why guns store are not allowed to serve beer. Everybody would be running around with ugly guns. Nice to take it for a test drive before buying. Same thing I told the wife while dating. |
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Post by dovehunter on Jun 22, 2009 19:38:06 GMT -5
Is there any way that you can shoot the gun before buying it? I know the old Franchi autoloaders that functioned like the Browning A-5 kicked liked a mule. I had one. Also, like the two A-5s that I had, it was prone to jamming. I would think if it is a gas-operated gun that it shouldn't have all that bad of a kick.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Jun 22, 2009 19:55:16 GMT -5
Maybe that why guns store are not allowed to serve beer. Everybody would be running around with ugly guns. Well the owner would think it's cute ;D Jimh, I wouldn't worry about it too much. How often do you go out and shoot 100 rounds at once ---- every few years? |
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Post by jimh on Jun 23, 2009 7:23:38 GMT -5
well i solicated feed back from actual users of a 712 asking about the performance of the model and i'm comfortable in takeing a chance on it. my beretta is a similar design and is ok with me and that has the lighter composite stock. this gun has a wood stock but still only 7lbs and i think it will be alright. in addition this will be for my light field loads anyway. if i'm useing heavy loads like for ducks and what not then the composite gun is the one going to the blind anyway. however you guys (bounce and bill) reserve the right to do a inmyface "We told you so!" should i live to regret the trade. ;D
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Post by bounce on Jun 23, 2009 7:45:52 GMT -5
Hey, you would think they were made to fit somebody?
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Post by Bill on Jun 23, 2009 8:31:28 GMT -5
Bounce had the model that was recoil operated. IF the 712 is gas operated then it should not be as bad. ;D ;D ;D Franchi's have always been known at guns that kick but then they didn't make them in trap guns either. ;D Its a hunting gun and made to carry well.  |
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Post by jimh on Jun 23, 2009 9:36:59 GMT -5
here's what the blue book says:
MODEL 712
- 12 ga. only, 3 in. chamber, Benelli inertia recoil system with rotating bolt head, aluminum receiver, 24, 26, or 28 in. VR barrel, 5 shot mag., choice of synthetic, Weathercoat walnut, or 100% Advantage Timber HD or Max-4 HD camo coverage, recoil pad, approx. 7 lbs. Limited importation 2004 only.
Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60%
$650 $575 $500 $450 $375 $325 $275
Last MSR was $750.
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