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Post by twomoons on May 29, 2009 10:03:17 GMT -5
One reason I love a canoe or a Kayak for fishing is the great gear you get. We went out on the river again the other day and in one 4 mile trip down river we picked up... 1 new goose decoy, 2 marker bouys and 2 new Rapala lures all hooked up on snags just out of reach of the average boater. I can't believe the boaters who will cast to shore, snag up a lure and just leave iit hanging there. Add to this the morels we spot and can paddle in for and it really adds to the fishing expirence. I would guess I pick up 6-8 lures a year and lots of other stuff, catfish rigs weights ect. As we boat the call of Treasure Ahoy is heard and we have a new prize.
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Post by jmarriott on May 29, 2009 10:35:08 GMT -5
They drained a north indiana lake a couple of years ago and the lure hunters were like scavengers all around the lake.
I was catching large cats and crappie in what was left in the lake like clockwork. I did get a couple of rattle traps on a log myself. Try a local lake when a drought or draw down is on. The treasure just jumps out at ya,
On the White river in Anderson Indiana we have found stolen cars, dumped refridge's lots of worn out tires and had at least one hundred spiders in one nasty spill at a tree limb, but I would not really call that treasure.
As a kid I found a stevens 22 with the barrel stuck into the mud right below a bridge. It worked after we cleeaned it but it never really grouped and was sold later in a garage sale. I think that someone shot it off the bridge droped it into the water and then drove away.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on May 29, 2009 22:28:02 GMT -5
I can't begin to image the number of guns at the bottom of the Mississippi about 50 yards from the bridge in St. Louis !!!
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Post by jmarriott on May 30, 2009 8:25:07 GMT -5
hey red buy a boat and a big magnet, go fishing for guns. Still you arn't going to get nice one as all those gangbangers don't normally buy quality.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on May 30, 2009 10:39:33 GMT -5
I wouldn't say that
They've been strawsaling them like crazy at Cabelas
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Post by jmarriott on May 30, 2009 11:21:15 GMT -5
What guns or big old magnets?
Right now the castleton gander mountian still sells ammo of the shelves not in cabnets behind glass. Two of the last 3 times i visited they had two low pants being carted away for ammo shoplifting. I hope they catch alot more. Would hate to have to ask the clerk to get me one of each of the 357 and 44 mag boxes out so i could find the one i wanted.
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Post by jabba on Jun 2, 2009 11:28:21 GMT -5
There is lots of stuff to be found (Salvaged) on a river trip.
I spend some time on the white river south of indianapolis, so I see a lot fof garbage, but there is some good stuff there too.
Jabba
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Post by jimh on Jun 2, 2009 11:45:32 GMT -5
Red, just because sales are going through the roof, does not mean they are straw buyers. if they knew they were then the feds would be all over them.
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Post by jimiowa on Jun 2, 2009 11:50:29 GMT -5
hey red buy a boat and a big magnet, go fishing for guns. Still you arn't going to get nice one as all those gangbangers don't normally buy quality. I'm not sure I would agree with that!! Crime may not pay, but it seems like their illegal activities seems to generate enough cash that our Law Enforcement officers are too often under gunned in street combat. I remember one Robbery Murder case here in Des Moines, back when they were new and very rare where the Banger used a .50 AE Desert Eagle. Not cheap hardware at all. I will agree that many guns could be recovered from the river in St Louis, but since most would be needed for ballistics checks by Law Enforcement I don't think I would want to have to explain how I came to possess them. One could probably come out of it ok but how much time and money would you spend proving your innocence? |
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Jun 2, 2009 21:14:37 GMT -5
if they knew they were then the feds would be all over them. I have it on good terms the feds are all over them. They're watching that store like a hawk because of many strawsales. There's evidence that cabelas guns and ammo are being used in murders in St. Louis. If it wasn't "cabelas" who knows if their FFL would of been pulled. |
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Post by jimh on Jun 3, 2009 6:55:22 GMT -5
Red, i don't want to hi-jack this 'Fishing Thread" so i'll just stop now but you really got to stop drinking the Koolaid.
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Post by jimiowa on Jun 3, 2009 10:59:12 GMT -5
if they knew they were then the feds would be all over them. I have it on good terms the feds are all over them. They're watching that store like a hawk because of many strawsales. There's evidence that cabelas guns and ammo are being used in murders in St. Louis. If it wasn't "cabelas" who knows if their FFL would of been pulled. I can understand that the Fed's would be watching. However having sold a lot of guns at Walmart(all long guns), I can say that it is hard except in very obvious cases to tell a Straw Sale from a normal transcation. You never know what the buyer is going to do once the sale is completed. The clerk has to put HIS NAME ON THE LINE when he signs the 4473 stating that He's Making a legitimate Sale. And is subject to any consequences for falsifying a Government Document if the sale is not legit.I can't imagine any freedom loving clerk making a questionable sale? |
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Post by jmarriott on Jun 3, 2009 11:51:51 GMT -5
Both Don's guns and bradis guns in Indianapolis got into with the fed's over handgun sales and then the guns showing up in chicago (I can't believe that it was chicago) in handgun crimes.
It is one thing for a salesperson to sell one gun to a person in a day. I guess that one person was buying 10-15 guns at a time several weeks in a row. Mostly sold to female CCW holders in Indiana and then redistributed out to the street gangs in chicago.
There were also other gun store's closer to chicago than Indianapolis. I guess you bring down the dope and get the cash then spend the cash on guns in Indiana and drive back to chicago sell them and buy more dope.
These two indiana gun store made some list of the worse strawsales store's in the nation. If I was getting commision off every gun I sold I might not think that it was important to think what one person would do with 15 jennings 32 ACP pistols if it would help me pay the mortgage. After all the clerks made LEGITIMATE sales just like the cabela's we are talking about. The person buying them and redistributing them made the illegal transactions.
Thing is that in a way selling guns to a CCW holder in the state of Indiana requires no waiting period and there are at this time no restriction of the amount of guns you can buy. So the stores just stated that these clerks were making legit sales and the people who then sold off those pistols or lost them in a flood were the ones at fault not the gun store or clerks.
Bradis is one of the gun stores that i spend money at and they do try to carry what is selling. Lately the GLOCK and Kel-tec are big sellers and they have lots of them in stock. They still have about 3 or 4 kimbers in stock at all times but might have 15 glocks and 20 kel-tecs.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Jun 3, 2009 21:13:17 GMT -5
I like my koolaid. It tastes good. ;D Back when handgun ammo could be found, I know dad said at least once a day women would come to him asking what shells to buy for her husband. Dad would basically say "well to make sure it's the right thing he ought to come in b/c you can't return them". They'd always reply to the effect "he can't purchase it so I'm doing it for him" Aren't women so dumb. It's adorible  The gun counter guys will tell you they routinely turn away the Illinois guys wanting to buy handguns and just by coincidence a day or so later the same guy just happens to be tagging along with his buddy who happens to want to buy the exact same gun... Guys come in and buy 2-3 guns a week every week. Nothing illegal about that, but surely there's nothing illegal about that??? I know a guy was purchasing a gun at the counter. There was a customer on both sides of the guy. All of a sudden the two customers whipped out their ATF badge and had the guy on the ground before anyone knew what was going on. Hard telling what that was about, but clearly it had something to do with an attempted firearm purchase. And management / loss prevention doesn't care. The employees tell them what is going on and they basically ignored it. One of the employees called the feds regarding the strawsales / lack of management concern and they were in there doing a full audit of the gun deptartment. Guns came up missing and heads rolled. Clearly Cabelas does the most gun sales of any single store in the state (probably the country in terms of a single store's location). So therefor, it's likely to do the most illegal sales --- just because of volume. When you're doing such a high volume like that, things like this are going to happen. I'm sure the salemen do their best to recognize the ovbouis ones. With Cabelas not sticking by their employees in customer service situations, I suspect a lot of stuff gets sold because in questionable situations the management always sides with the customer. Overall though, I think they do what they can to stop it. I'm just mearly pointing out that it happens a lot there. |
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Post by jimh on Jun 3, 2009 21:22:38 GMT -5
Red just name me one Murder that was proved that either the firearm or ammo DID come from Cabelas.  |
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