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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 15, 2008 9:59:28 GMT -5
Let's talk about this as it's the most popular subject.
There's a few ways we can do this:
1. Big Game - antalope, hogs, deer, etc are all fine economical choices with public and private land in abundance. The downside would be price but the upside would be a lot more meat taken home for those successfull. And I think it's important to find something where the odds are near 100%.
2. Bird hunting - the cheapest route. Seems like birds are popular here. Turkey, dove, waterfowl, upland, etc.
The two questions to be asked
a. Is this too strenuous of an activity (other than dove and waterfowl)?
b. Is it worth a long drive to bird hunt?
3. Varmint hunting - again the cheapest route. There aren't a lot of physical demands. The question - is it worth it?
3. Combination hunt
It may be possible (would be if we looked) to find an area where we could hunt something for 2 days or so and then switch to something else for a day or so to give a good variety. This may be the compromising choice.
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Post by deputydon on Sept 15, 2008 10:14:22 GMT -5
I haven't talked to 2M's or Bounce yet about being "hosts" but turkeys are plentiful on the Rez. Spring season is about 5 weeks long in April and May. I would say you would have plenty of room to camp and motels nearby for those who don't or can't rough it. There's also a small casino for those who want to lose some money. Mushrooms in mid May. We would be in the same country that Stumpy hunted. You can use a bow, MLing shotgun, or modern shotgun. There's food for thought. I'll have to check on permit prices.
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Post by bounce on Sept 15, 2008 10:36:15 GMT -5
DD's Turkey hunt Idea is one I would probibly be able to make it too. The earlyer in seasion the easyer to bag one as later they don't respond to calls very well but the mushrooms are good then. Right now there seems to be no shortage of turkeys on the Res. or the State Thinking if you spent the money for both permints you could have a least two birds I do not know if they will be offering a way to have more than two or not?
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Post by deputydon on Sept 15, 2008 10:58:05 GMT -5
You can get up to three permits; one tom per permit. The Rez. prices are WAY cheaper than the state prices. And on the Rez. you don't have to worry about getting permission to any ground that we would hunt.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 15, 2008 12:03:16 GMT -5
A couple questions
Are the reservation turkey tags "over the counter" available at walmart or do you have to purchase / apply for them in advance. My thinking would be that spring weather is unpredictable and in the event of bad weather, I'd probably only want 1 permit to begin with (considering the cost).
Are there prarie dog towns, fishing, etc on or around the reservation?
In no way am I shooting your idea down, but I think this has to be said (if nothing else just to play devils advocate)
People may get all the turkey hunting they can handle in their own state. If someone only goes out of state everyonce in a while, we might want to go after game that most don't normally encounter.
And we may want to avoid the turkey and deer hunting seasons in April/May and mid November as it might conflict with other scheduales.
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Post by bounce on Sept 15, 2008 13:52:17 GMT -5
You can hunt deer on the res. on the same as the state hunts deer. Don't know the prices or out of state deer price for the state but I don't think were your from matters to the Res. it's just what ever they decide the price is. and it verys sometimes.
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Post by deputydon on Sept 15, 2008 16:45:43 GMT -5
A couple questions Are the reservation turkey tags "over the counter" available at walmart or do you have to purchase / apply for them in advance. My thinking would be that spring weather is unpredictable and in the event of bad weather, I'd probably only want 1 permit to begin with (considering the cost). Are there prarie dog towns, fishing, etc on or around the reservation? In no way am I shooting your idea down, but I think this has to be said (if nothing else just to play devils advocate) People may get all the turkey hunting they can handle in their own state. If someone only goes out of state everyonce in a while, we might want to go after game that most don't normally encounter. And we may want to avoid the turkey and deer hunting seasons in April/May and mid November as it might conflict with other scheduales. Don't mind you playing Devil's Advocate at all Red. As you said we'll in the first planning stages and I'm sure theres others w/ excellent ideas too.. Yes the permits are over the counter, but more importantly they're good for all season. As to the prices theres the "Native" price and the Non-Native" price. So the out-of-stater's pay the same as us in-stater's. Also if any of you are a card carrying native you get it for the "native" price which is next to free. Yes there is fishing on the Missouri River but you need a out-of-state Nebraska permit, they have three day permits if I remember right. If you golf ( I don't) there are at least 4 courses within one hour of us. And an airport rated for Leer jets 15 minutes away. The problem I see w/ deer is I can't tell you we have a shot at 100 % success like I can w/ turkeys. And most deer hunting is in weather that isn't always kind as Stumpy found out. |
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 15, 2008 17:17:23 GMT -5
I edited the subject line. We can use this thread to discuss the turkey hunting option that the boys from Neb has suggested.
If someone has another idea, lets go ahead and start a brand new thread where we can discuss that in detail.
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Post by Bubba on Sept 15, 2008 17:27:01 GMT -5
I'd be up for most any kind of hunt you guys choose. I love bird shooting and it's kind of more down my alley because I don't walk very well and cannot walk for any kind of distance. Upland birds would be the toughest for me because they require a lot of walking. Duck/goose require no walking. Dove would require me to really look at the costs for driving that distance for a few dove that I could kill in my back yard. Deer would be ok also (that "wall hanger" is still missing from my wall). All I'd have to do is get to the stand and then sit. I'm not too keen of the "varmint" hunt although I don't do much of that any more except for whistle pigs. Turkey would be alright too because I've ever shot one. As long as I could set up somewhere and just sit and wait and it wouldn't require any walking. I would drag my ATV with me because where ever it is, I'll drive there.
So, now that I've given my thoughts, I'll go along pretty much on whatever we can all decide on. After 3 years on this forum and on Don's before this, I've known some of you guys a long time and would like to shake hands with all of you.
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Post by Bubba on Sept 15, 2008 17:42:59 GMT -5
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 16, 2008 14:47:41 GMT -5
Yes there is fishing on the Missouri River but you need a out-of-state Nebraska permit, they have three day permits if I remember right. The problem I see w/ deer is I can't tell you we have a shot at 100 % success like I can w/ turkeys. And most deer hunting is in weather that isn't always kind as Stumpy found out. A couple more questions --- is the Missouri River still trout water and how wide is it? Can you easily fish from the bank or wade the river/creeks? Basically I'm asking if it's worth my time in the afternoon ;D ;D ;D And then deer hunting. I'm not sure if that was a invitation or not.  But when you're refering to the success, are you talking about drawing odds or the actual harvest rate? If your area has 100% draw / over the counter tags, this may be an option for us to consider as well. |
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Post by deputydon on Sept 16, 2008 17:29:06 GMT -5
Yes there is fishing on the Missouri River but you need a out-of-state Nebraska permit, they have three day permits if I remember right. The problem I see w/ deer is I can't tell you we have a shot at 100 % success like I can w/ turkeys. And most deer hunting is in weather that isn't always kind as Stumpy found out. A couple more questions --- is the Missouri River still trout water and how wide is it? Can you easily fish from the bank or wade the river/creeks? Basically I'm asking if it's worth my time in the afternoon ;D ;D ;D And then deer hunting. I'm not sure if that was a invitation or not. But when you're refering to the success, are you talking about drawing odds or the actual harvest rate? If your area has 100% draw / over the counter tags, this may be an option for us to consider as well. The Missouri is about 2 miles wide up here and theres holes about 50'-60' deep. I used to swim in it but not any more. I've pulled to many floaters out of her. Maybe Spencer damn for sauager and channel cats on the Niobrara ? Rez deer permits are over the counter. However rifle season is a 8 day balls to the wall zoo that I would not recommend for a out-of-stater. I go nonstop from start to finish trying to be in the right place at the right time. MLing season AKA SINGLE SHOT SEASON is the month of Dec. and the weather can and does go from sunny and upper 30's to snowing and sub-zero in hours. And patterning the deer can make you go nuts. Bottom line is where I think I can get you a shot at a trophy tom, I can't come close to saying that about getting a shot at a big buck. Plus spring turkey hunting is a good way to see if you might like to someday come back for deer. |
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Post by twomoons on Sept 17, 2008 8:16:07 GMT -5
If anyone needs to camp and don't mind primiitive I can set up a couple of camps.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 17, 2008 12:25:32 GMT -5
Well let me ask this - how long would everyone want to be there?
I can see myself hunting 4 full days and staying like 6 nights. I'm only 10 hours away and would make that trip in one day unless I'm riding/driving with someone who wanted to split it up more.
Camping can get awefull unbearable even for me under the best of conditions that long. Depending on how long a drive it is to go hunting, I could rent a double queen hotel room for a week (I assume it's common practice in Neb to offer rooms for a week at a discount) and whoever wanted to stay there could split the bill with me.
3 people to the room - I'd sleep on the floor, couch, or roll-out bed. Hell, 3 ways that's going to be under 100 bucks a person I would think. Meals will be considerably more expensive unless I sneak a coleman stove in, but I think that's the way to go if we choose the turkey hunt.
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Post by deputydon on Sept 17, 2008 19:17:44 GMT -5
Well I can be camp cook and save everyone on the meal bill.....
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