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Post by dakota on Mar 25, 2006 13:16:38 GMT -5
My old Diesel Ford is tired! Every time I bring it in it costs me a pile of dough for repairs. I am thinking I need a new pickup or perhaps a used truck. Probably over half my trucks have been Chevy but now it seems a person can't hardly purchase a new one with a standard transmission. I normally do not buy foreign stuff but I saw Toyotas in the Africa and Australian remote areas and they seemingly held up very well under harse conditions. The other route I am thinking might be a Dodge. After getting the new Rifleman today I toured Ruger's WEB site and saw the following Dodge promo, interesting -- I thought www.ruger.com/RugerRam/index.html
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 25, 2006 16:05:55 GMT -5
If you want a truck for puttering up and down the highway, then any truck is going to do that.
But if you're hauling loads or want to keep that truck for as long as you kept your diesel, then get a Ford, Chevy, or GMC. I think you'll find Ford offers more manual transmittions plus I think you'll go through 2 dodges, Nissons, or toyotas before the Ford dies. imo
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Post by bounce on Mar 25, 2006 18:41:50 GMT -5
Gas milelage with job needed would be top considerations if I could afford to look!!
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 26, 2006 0:34:17 GMT -5
You know, if you're looking for a midsized truck mazda would be a good choice if you wanted to stick with a ecomomic american made truck - they're owned by ford.
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Post by klsm54 on Mar 26, 2006 16:32:41 GMT -5
I had a 2001 Dodge. A full size 4WD std cab with a 318. It was an automatic, and the mileage it got was something out of a horror film... It was a company truck and it had a lot of highway miles put on it. If I drove sensibly, 55 or 60 mph, on the highway, it once gave me a whopping 11.5 mpg. Pushed, like I normally drive, 65-70 on 2 lanes and 75-80 on the interstate, it could burn a tank at under 10 mpg. IT might not of been bad if it weren't so gutless. When you pushed the pedal to the floor the darned thing roared like a lion, loudest racket you ever heard. But it just puttered along barely getting out of it's own way. The good news was that driving around town and short trips usually got me about 10.5 mpg. Thank goodnees I didn't pay for the gas in that thing. A friend has a newer Dodge with a Hemi, and it isn't much better. After that I had a 4WD GMC Sierra, another automatic, and a heavier extended cab. It had a much more powerful engine 5.3 Liter, that would get around 15 driving around town and always got about 16.5 to 17.0 mpg on the highway.
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Post by dakota on Mar 26, 2006 20:26:09 GMT -5
The ford diesel I have is a one ton 4 door 2 wheel drive '93. I have gotten 21 mpg when driving 60 mph (who can drive that speed for long?). If I run 80-85 the mileage drops 16 to 18 mpg. When I pull a heavy trailer I have gotten as bad as 13 mpg. It seems that diesels usually get much better mileage than gas. I wonder about the Dodge Cummins with a standard transmission 4 wheel drive with lock outs. I won't go back to GMC unless they start selling standard transmissions again. The worst thing about my Ford is evrything but the engine, it seems that it is always falling apart. The only Dodge I had was a 72 with a slant six.
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Post by jimiowa on Mar 26, 2006 23:15:29 GMT -5
I have two friends who are retired and have Dodge- Cummins Diesels. They each have a Camper they pull to Arizona over the mountains for the winter. And are both very happy with them. I have no idea what kind of milage they are getting. I know Joe will be back next weekend, I`ll try to remember to ask.
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Post by klsm54 on Mar 27, 2006 0:19:43 GMT -5
Dakota, I went to GMC website and did a "build your own" thing. The 2500 models can be had with a manual transmission, 5 spd with gas, 6 speed with diesel. It is a $1,095.00 deduction in the price.
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Post by dovehunter on Mar 27, 2006 15:22:20 GMT -5
On trucks, I'm kind of a mind with Red regarding Toyota and Nissan full-size trucks. I don't believe I would consider getting one until they have been around long enough to establish a track record. Around here rust-out is a big problem too and the Jap trucks don't seem to do too well in that area. You still see a lot of old Ford and Dodge trucks around here with no rust anywhere. You can't say the same for GM trucks. You don't see the old Jap trucks at all (unless it's just a totally rusted out body with an engine sitting on the frame).
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Post by dakota on Mar 27, 2006 17:26:35 GMT -5
KLSM54 -- I will look at that WEB site. I had been told by different people that GMC had abandoned standard transmissions. Thanks. It looks like I will be in North Dakota soon so I am not too worried about rust. Here in Iowa it seems to be a major problem.
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Post by deputydon on Mar 27, 2006 17:46:28 GMT -5
If you want a truck for puttering up and down the highway, then any truck is going to do that. But if you're hauling loads or want to keep that truck for as long as you kept your diesel, then get a Ford, Chevy, or GMC. I think you'll find Ford offers more manual transmittions plus I think you'll go through 2 dodges, Nissons, or toyotas before the Ford dies. imo Fords are the ONLY ones that hold up for me. Course I buy em to use and I DO use them just ask those that know me!!!!!!
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 27, 2006 23:54:52 GMT -5
I was just kinda being nice about GMC and chevy...lol They're alright...better than dodge or the foreign trucks.
If you take all the trucks from 1970-1990 that are stilling running in the US, I bet you Ford has more than all the other brands combined. I think Ford definatly has the longevity advantage.
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Post by deputydon on Mar 28, 2006 19:32:19 GMT -5
You got that right Red !!!!!! I still stand behind what I said earlier....
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Post by jabba on Mar 29, 2006 16:31:09 GMT -5
If I could afford one... and if I was in the market... I'd buy a newer GMC or Chevy with the DuraMax Diesel and the Allison transmission. I have a buddy that has one and it is slick! God aweful power. It'll break the tires loose from 30 MPH if you ask it to. Plus the trans has a very cool manual shift option. The Allison transmissions have a reputation of being bulletproof too. He gets about 17 MPG in his around town. He uses it as a service truck for his residential HVAC business.
I hear good things about the new Fords too with the 6.0 liter diesel.
Good luck. Let us know what you decide.
Jabba
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Post by klsm54 on Mar 30, 2006 9:06:08 GMT -5
Chevy/GMC made a smart move when they put that Allison tranny behind their diesels.
We had a Hummin' Cummins in a Dodge at work. The thing was nothing but trouble. The engine was fantastic, but the Torqueflite tranny was just not made to handle that type of torque. It had to be rebuilt, and eventually replaced, with many service issues in between. Can't say a thing bad about the Cummins though.
The Allisons have a great reputation of reliability in vehicles a lot heavier than pick-ups and shoulld hold up for the long haul just like the diesel engines. There is no doubt in my mind what I would buy if I had the need for a diesel pick-up. It would have an Allison tranny in it for sure.
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