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Post by Purebred Redneck on Dec 13, 2006 2:23:01 GMT -5
Well it's been over 10 years since I've had a dog running around and I think it's time for a change soon. I'm going to moving locations again and in Fed or March I'm going to be in a townhouse / duplex setting with tiny@ss backyard. To make it clear, this dog is not going to be a hunting dog. But I'd like the breed to be. It's going to be outside by day (on work days) and inside during the evening/night. I'm thinking about a chainlink enclosure maybe 6x6 approx (I'd like to fit something in the yard other than a dog kennel). Ultimatly I'd like a dog that will go to the park or local wildlife area and run around, retrive dummies, jump in the water, and be the object of every single women's attention ;D (I just threw in the last part) Some breeds I was thinking of was Beagle Lab GSP / Brittney Jack Russell Drawbacks Beagle - would have to have a bark shockcollar, stuborn and the one most likely to run off. Could lack the natural retrieving game skills? I don't know Lab - Frickin huge and full of energy Bird dog - full of energy and I never really bird hunted so I've never really cared for their looks (though I don't have much experience with them either) Jack Russell - I hear they are a pain Which sounds like the better choice for a inside dog that you can take to the park on days I'm not tired? I've been doing a lot of reading lately so I'm quite aware none of these are 100% ideal for my living condition.
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Post by deputydon on Dec 13, 2006 8:51:42 GMT -5
W/O a doubt Red (although I think your F^&*kin g nuts to want a dog in/on those conditions) a German Wirehaired Pointer. I have one and I fits everything your asking for. If anyone disagrees its only cause they've never owned one!!!
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Post by jabba on Dec 13, 2006 9:56:49 GMT -5
My GSP's would never survive that. They simply need too much exercise. I think you want a dog for the wrong reasons. A dog is a 10-15 year committment. Unless you adopt an old one from a shelter, which I highly recommend for you. Dogs also need 30-60 minutes of your attention EVERY day. to bond, to train and to exercise.
Borrow a friends dog to go to the park and pick up chicks.
Jabba
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Post by Bill on Dec 13, 2006 10:35:44 GMT -5
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That would be my opinion.
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Post by bounce on Dec 13, 2006 10:58:03 GMT -5
I would say Jack Russell, because you deserve one!!
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Post by Jack on Dec 13, 2006 11:36:08 GMT -5
Red, sounds to me like you'll have a caged dog that will bark all day, PO the neighbors. And just when you get home and want to relax, the dog will be going nuts to see you, go for a run, etc. Might wanna rethink this one. Is there such a thing as a blow up dog doll?
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Post by bounce on Dec 13, 2006 11:56:36 GMT -5
The cement German Shepard siting in front of your door would be kool
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Dec 13, 2006 13:06:37 GMT -5
I would agree that a "girly breed" would be much better as the activity level is much less.
I was also thinking that a bird dog would be an absolute disaster with the exercise demand. I also say I wanted something to be kept outside because I'm gone about 11 hours a day and I don't think a dog is going to be able to hold itself for that and he'll pee and poop all over the place.
There just aren't a lot of "guy" dogs.
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Post by bounce on Dec 13, 2006 14:26:47 GMT -5
The Jack will handel your space Reqirements Just make sure its a strong one with a roof as they can climb to any height to freedom and then they are like you at a ballgame with a good buzz working
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Dec 13, 2006 16:27:59 GMT -5
That's what I was afraid of Have you had a Jack??? I hear the hyper level is very high for such a little dog and they can be a very dominating dog, hard to train. I am also reading good things from reputatable sources (such as the akc) that beagles will do ok in apartment life and small yards. The beagles I was used to being around would settle down nicely after a few minutes of running before plopping down for another 4 hour nap. ;D It's the barking that concerns me about the beagle. From what others have said, bark shockcollars work well for dogs in general. But I'm not so sure a beagle can be trained not to bark and I'm not sure what kind of personality difficulties might occur if he wants to bark but can't/won't.
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Post by bounce on Dec 13, 2006 20:52:30 GMT -5
I raise the Jack Russels
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Post by jimh on Dec 13, 2006 22:20:36 GMT -5
Red, your best bet if you really want to go through with this is to hook up with the retreiver rescue bunch. they take in labs that need a new home, i have had a couple of friends get one that way and they worked out well. the dog was house broken and past it's chewing stage, and a lot of these have been kennel trained. my lab will turn 3 in march and we have left her in the house by herself since she was just oover a year old. before that we crated her. other than leaving a full trash can in the open for het to get into she hasn't done too much over that time. we did screw up on the trash can once or twice and put her on that diet last spring real suddenly she did go nuts for a week or two. other than that no problem, well ok until this past october/nov. when the midgets left a pillow case of holloween candy laying on the floor. man surger sure can be a mean laxitive.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Dec 13, 2006 22:46:36 GMT -5
How active is your retriever Jim? I know they get in the way of things and have great stamina, but the few I've been around weren't hyperactive. If you're gone all day is the lab going to run circles all evening long or is he going to settle down after the initial "hello". Now the GSPs I've been around was a different story. We'd hunt all day and the guys would get back to farm house and we'd collapse. And then the GSPs would start chasing eachother for another hour as we are too tired to yell at them to stop
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Post by jimiowa on Dec 13, 2006 23:43:36 GMT -5
Thats such a personal thing, it's hard to reccomend... Like Bounce I am very partial to the terrir breeds and any terrier would fit your requirements. But I have never seen a terrier that did not think it was "10 ft tall and bulletproof", yes they can be a bit hard headed. But I love them for that! My second choice you did not mention, in the Brittany Spaniel, that one can be a house pet and you can hunt them as well.(I'm sure Bullseye would say the same for his Springer). In my opinion the dog that best fits your requirements is not a hunting dog at all. A Border Collie would be the easiest to train and fits all other requirements. And the Chicks go wild when they catch that frizbee 3 ft off the ground.... One other opinion, mine and many won't agree, "pedigrees don't mean spit when your just talking pets" rescue a nice dog from the animal shelter a nice crossbreed makes a fine companion. I had a Manchester Terrier/ Golden Retriever that ran out in front of a car and saved me getting run over when in the 1st grade. Every day I live I owe to that mutt.
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Post by Jack on Dec 14, 2006 1:05:57 GMT -5
Here is another option: www.englishsetterrescue.org/index.html This place rescues and places adult English Setters. You might be able to get an adult dog that is a bit more calm than a puppy, and already trained. English Setters are bird dogs, but they also make very good pets, very loving and usually easy to control.
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