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Post by Bubba on Aug 19, 2006 19:37:07 GMT -5
Have any of you guys seen those new Gamo 22 cal air rifles they say are great for small game hunting? I was watching a show on OLN the other day and there was a guy that used one on a 100 lb wild PIG... and killed it with one shot.... unbelievable... but I was thinking of picking one up to plink with...
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Post by dakota on Aug 19, 2006 21:50:34 GMT -5
I bought my youngest an air rifle to shoot beer cans with in the back yard. (I help him out with the targets.) He killed a rabbit the other day. I was glad we were not living in a place where people might mind. I lectured him about it though. I try hard to stay on the right side of the law. Shooting animals in town is frowned upon some places.
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Post by jimiowa on Aug 19, 2006 22:35:26 GMT -5
Some of the new air rifles are a far cry from what we had in the 60's. But Dad started my older brother out with a 2 1/2" .410.
And me with a .22 cal Crossman.
It would do fine on squirrels if you kept the range close.
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Post by sebastian on Aug 20, 2006 0:28:02 GMT -5
Nothing strange/unbelievable with using air gun on small games, but the maximum/effective range is just about/under 30 meters. It can be done in the right circumtances, the right air gun & pellet, and precise shot placement. I've shot some small pigs & deers with my homemade air compressed gun before. I don't know for the Gamo myself but mine accepts 3000 psi of compressed oxygen (O2). It's a .177 cal, btw. For pigs, the key is shoot right on the center of the brain. Done better when the game is "facing?" or when I hunt with tree stand method shoot (shoot "downhill?"). For our type of "barking deer", the same to the brain, or right on the ear, or just behind the ear. They can be killed with just with one shot, but NOT very instantly in all honesty. That's why I didn't use air gun for pigs & deers anymore. (it was just my "curiousity" before).
All birds can be killed isntantly with an air gun, BTW. Porqupine(sp?) etc.
For air guns, the European made is the best. Anchutz, Walther, HW, Feinwerkbau, etc.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Aug 20, 2006 10:03:19 GMT -5
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Post by klsm54 on Aug 20, 2006 15:08:42 GMT -5
Back in my younger days, I killed some cottontails with a .177 cal. Crosman pump up rifle. Back then you could pump 'em up 25 strokes, which I always did. I had better luck with BB's over pellets, they penetrated better. Head shots, especially from the side, were a sure thing. From the front the shot would sometimes glance off. I also killed several with lung shots, but they would run 30-50 yards before they layed down and bled out.
Oh yeah, they aren't legal to hunt with in Pennsylvania.
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Post by deputydon on Aug 20, 2006 19:51:05 GMT -5
Have any of you guys seen those new Gamo 22 cal air rifles they say are great for small game hunting? I was watching a show on OLN the other day and there was a guy that used one on a 100 lb wild PIG... and killed it with one shot.... unbelievable... but I was thinking of picking one up to plink with... A 100 lb. pig!!!!!!!!!!!! That's a heck of a air gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  |
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Post by Bill on Aug 20, 2006 22:42:50 GMT -5
Some of the new pellet guns can get 1600 fps but its with a new pellet they came out with that weighs about half of a regular pellet.
Regular pellet guns now day can get between 1000 and 1250 FPS out of a .177 pellet but you can use some of the heavier pellets and even though slower they have plenty of energy.
I use to set in the back yard where I had a bench rest set up and would pick off the ground squirrils that dug holes in my yard. 50 yards on a half grown ground squirril was about my limit but boy did that old cheap chinese built pellet gun do a job on them. Every now and then a rabbit would come out into the open and I would pop him with my pellet gun and killed them stone dead and usually with one shot.
Bounce and I use to sit in my basement were we had a bench rest set up and we could shoot about 50' into a bullet trap I had set up for shooting into. Pellet guns are pretty fun I will say that. ;D
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Post by deputydon on Aug 22, 2006 9:11:07 GMT -5
But a 100 lb . pig w/ an airgun  !!!!! |
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Post by twomoons on Aug 22, 2006 12:00:42 GMT -5
Lewis and Clark carried a 44 cal air gun on their trek and used it to kill various game animals. I believe Capt. Clark used it to shoot ducks out of the air. In a lot of European countries an air gun is all you can own and so hunting with them is now a matter of necessity. The new improved air guns will push a 22 slug at up to 1000 fps and so England modified their laws and yo have to get a permit to buy one of those! By the way those hunting style air gund cost from 300 to 700 dollars.
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Post by Bubba on Aug 22, 2006 18:03:43 GMT -5
The name of the show is Steve Scott- Outdoor Guide. It airs here at 8 AM on OLN. He's got a web site and on the web site there's a discussion board about "air guns". The whole thing is discussed in length and how much people do or do not agree with the whole "pig" thing. Here's his web site address... www.stevescott.tv I think you have to register to view the message boards but I'm not sure... I watched that show with some interest while he was shooting Prarrie Dogs at 50 yards with an air gun and then he said he was going to hunt wild pigs with the same gun... I just had to see that... it was really something to behold... |
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Post by calsibley on Aug 27, 2006 14:23:11 GMT -5
When younger I had a Red Ryder model BB gun. I think it was made by Daisy. Anyway I'd shoot at squirrel, birds and the occasional rabbit with it. Usually it would kill birds and scare hell out of the others. I never thought of these as being good killers, not near up to the capability of the European rifles, especially those of Anschutz. That's why I recently purchased a CZ452 in .22LR. I don't want to merely scare them. Maybe I'm behind the times here, and the air rifles are a lot more powerful today. Best wishes.
Cal - Motreal
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Aug 27, 2006 20:18:31 GMT -5
I had one too.
You could watch the bb come out of the rifle all the way to the can...which it barely dented ;D ;D ;D
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Post by dovehunter on Aug 29, 2006 14:14:35 GMT -5
My experience with airguns was similar to what PBR described with the rabbits in the garden. Certainly you could kill squirrels and rabbits with them but, at least the ones I remember, could hardly be considered as effective and humane killers. Maybe the new ones are more effective but personally, I'd have to see it to believe it. For my part, I'd just as soon use something like CB caps out of a .22 rifle.
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Post by donnie on Aug 29, 2006 17:16:26 GMT -5
As a kid I shot a TON of rabbits with a crossman 760 firing BBs If one puts a BB with 10 pumps in the head of a rabbit a kill is actually quite expediant. I am absolutely 100% certain that a pellet rifle that launches a pellet at velocities of 1000 fps will do a very nice job of dispatching small game humanely.
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Finally caught up to him but he was still too alive to step on so I shot him again the head and that was enough to step on him. 
