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Post by Purebred Redneck on Apr 25, 2006 22:16:22 GMT -5
A question
Hodgon claims all you need to do when cleaning your gun is to used simple tap water b/c there is no sulfur. Basically run a few wet patches followed by a few dry ones, then oil as you would a regular gun.
Have you found this to be true, or should tripple 7 still be treated like black powder or pyrodex?
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Post by bounce on Apr 25, 2006 22:48:26 GMT -5
Never used it red, But I can tell you I use tap water to clean my black powder guns. So were their is steel,& water their is corosion without lubercant. got it?
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Apr 26, 2006 20:57:55 GMT -5
I use boiling water and dawn dish soap and don't have a problem. But I sure won't just use a wet patch to clean pyrodex.
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Post by twomoons on Apr 27, 2006 12:49:06 GMT -5
tripple 7
Is this some kind of plastic powder for plastic guns???
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Post by stumpjumper on May 8, 2006 2:26:05 GMT -5
I use boiling water and dawn dish soap and don't have a problem. But I sure won't just use a wet patch to clean pyrodex. PBR ~ I know some people like to season there muzzys for better accuracy & others don't. If a person is trying to season his/her bbl., then dawn dish bubbles isn't' very good to use because it will cut threw any season a person my try to achieve. But if you aren't concerned about seasonin the bbl., then Dawn is a great product to use.
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Post by bounce on May 8, 2006 8:24:39 GMT -5
Red you can do as you are But when done put Young Counry LUBE 103 on a patch and lube your barrel with that & the next time out it will work good if you keep useing this lube for your ball patches allso. [it's the best lube their is on the market] for muzzelloading
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Post by donnie on May 8, 2006 14:51:17 GMT -5
Hey Bounce, Where can I find thisLube?
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Post by bounce on May 8, 2006 15:34:17 GMT -5
Young County, 1409 Kuehner Dr. #13, Santa Susana, Calif. 93063 Is the adderess on the jar. I buy it at UPPER MISSOURI TRADING COMPANY Doc & De Carlson P.O. Box 100 Crofton NE. 68730 0r www.uppermotradingco.com ph #402-388-4844 last I bought from them was $7.95 for 4oz jar Get 4 or so while your at it if ordering it's the only one you will ever use once you have unless you want to try two moons resipe ..... if he will give it too you? ..smiles It's about the same thing.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on May 8, 2006 22:28:06 GMT -5
I've never heard of "seasoning" a barrel Stumpy
As far as lube, I run a patch of bore butter down the barrel when the hot water evaporates
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Post by stumpjumper on May 10, 2006 11:54:12 GMT -5
Red ~ Seasoning of the bbl. is the same as when you season, or cure your cast iron pans. This seals any pit in the barrels rifleing. If you take care of your shooter proper from the start, seasoning is just an option, however, if you get one that is used, & the previuos owner wasn't much for cleanin' it & it is now full of pits, then seasoning is a good alturnitive to havin' to get it rebarreled.
Seasonin' is a procece of scrubbin' out the inside to get all rust & other junk up outta the bore & rifling. I use a wire brush & really give it a good scrubbin'. Then use a good bore butter on a jag and give it a good cleanin'. Run ya a dry patch or two through it & load it with patch & ball, bein' sure to use your bore butter on the shootin patch. I useually run a buttered patch down the bore after each shot. After about 100 rd's popped threw, you should find that your smokepole will load alot easier & accruracy will improve as well.
I'm not for or against seasonin', I just know what works in some of my rifles. Others I don't need to do this & still others, well, gettin a new bbl. & turnin the old into a muskrat, or coon club to keep under the front seat would be the best bet, cause no amount of seasonin' will do the trick.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on May 14, 2006 14:52:26 GMT -5
So this is a temporary seasoning, correct??? How long would this last before you suggest doing this again???
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Post by twomoons on May 15, 2006 14:15:40 GMT -5
If you use just one natural base lube and use it each time to grease your bore it will eventually work into the pores and the bore may be dark, but it won't rust. The advantage to this is that you won't need a fouling shot to condition your bore for your first shot. For example with CLP in my Sharps I need to shoot a fouler or the first shot is as much as 1 1/2" high at 100 yards. By using my lube instead of CLP I can put the firs shot in at only 1/2" higher than the rest of the group on average, a great benefit for the hunter.
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Post by dakota on May 15, 2006 22:07:49 GMT -5
Thanks 2m, One thing that bugged me was I always shot out my ball or mini went I went in. I have learned more about muzzle loaders than anything else since I started on this site.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on May 15, 2006 22:43:01 GMT -5
By using my lube instead of CLP I can put the firs shot in at only 1/2" higher than the rest of the group on average, a great benefit for the hunter. I know you guys love your accuracy, but with deer hunting a "flyer" 1.5 inches high at 100 yards is not even going to be noticed (assuming you didn't aim or pull high in the first place) I wouldn't call it a benifit for the hunter as much as it is a benifit at the rifle range.
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Post by stumpjumper on Jun 11, 2006 7:33:42 GMT -5
I've never heard of "seasoning" a barrel Stumpy I had just run across an article that stated that seasoning a bbl. is nothing but an absurd & ridiculous notion. Well, I stand corrected. Fact is, I wasn't seasoning my bbl's, I just kept them super clean. Sorry for any deceptions. Non were meant. I was fed a good story & believed it. Facts on the table outweighs a good story, or a sales pitch. Sorry if I confused or deceived anyone here. I better get two moons to make me up a batch of his bore medicine ;D.
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