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Post by dakota on Mar 25, 2006 15:17:53 GMT -5
I was looking in the 1994 "Gun Digest" and found a blurb on T/C's silent ball discharger. This unit is for extracting your ball at the end of the day or if you should have a misfire.
It is a CO2 powered unit that is supposed to work on Flinklocks, Percussion and in-line muzzle loaders. You plug it in and it pushes the ball out with CO2 power.
As I read it I recalled firing my muzzle-loader at the end of the day.
I never had to use a contraption I had that screwed into the ball to pull it out if there was a misfire.
My question(s) are:
Is there anything like this on the market now?
Do you use it?
Do you recommend unloading your muzzle loader when you head in for the night?
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Post by bounce on Mar 25, 2006 15:38:01 GMT -5
Yes They are on the market, They are nice to have at a club shoot when someone or your self screws up, I think they are around $25.00 + the gas tubes, They are not primitive but a good safe way to handel problems so I do recomend them to anyone that wants one. and last if you loaded a clean gun and it has stayed dry during a days hunt and not fired it is ok to just uncap it and go out again the next day. If you have fired it and reloaded with out a perfict clean & dry first you must empty your gun as it most likely will not go off the next day if you do not or even a few hours and if in high moisture best get it out allso.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 25, 2006 15:42:12 GMT -5
I've always just fired them off.
If you hunted on a sunny day saturday and plan to hunt sunday, I wouldn't shoot it. No way...
I might even let it stay loaded for a week (provided you didn't shoot the gun any)
Now if it's a damp day, then I'd shoot it to play it safe.
I might have some problems unloading the gun in the rain.
After two caps, I'll give up and just unscrew the "bolster" screw and stuff it full of 2 or 3 grains of powder and tighten it again. Should go off.
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Post by stumpjumper on Mar 26, 2006 8:02:42 GMT -5
I don't know how they work on a single ball/load, that it was designed for. My buddy & I where down the range having a day at it. I took several of my Muzzys down. Well, something told me to look over my shoulder, & when he dropped the wiping stick down the bbl., I noticed to much rod stickin' out for it being a seated load. Well he noticed it to, but instead of him thinkin' he double loaded 'er he just thought it wasn't seated, & pushed the ram rod into a beam quite hard.  .Needless to say, he ain't shot with me again. No, not because he made a mistake & double loaded it. Not at all. WE ALL make mistakes. But rammin the wipin' stick hard into the beam to seat it.Nope, I ain't havin' that crap. Not with my guns. Those beams where designed to hold the roof up, not side as a ram rod power pack ram thing. No I wasn't impressed AT ALL. Well I went down to the Hunters/Shooters Pharmacy, & bought one of those Co2 units. It didn't work at all. But you have to take into consideration that this was designed to work on a single stuck ball,conical, sabot, not with a load of, one with 80gr. fffg & 199 gr. patched rb, plus an additional 80gr. fffg. & 199 gr. patched rb. Man let me tell ya. I couldn't even pull it out with a screw. It took along time using a .50 cal. bore scraper that I altered the blade some, puttin' a slight bevel & a cuttin' edge to it. Then I took my ramrod over to my drill press & drilled 2 angled holes though the brass rod tip & pinned it in after a light coat of glass bed under the tip/rod & in the holes that I pinned. The rod tip wasn't comin' off on me again. Well, time was all it needed now. I still have that Co2 unit in my possibles bag. I picked up a couple spare cylinders of Co2. I got them for my hunt out in Nebraska, as a just in case. Like Bounce pointed out. It ain't primitive, but nice to have on ya just in case. But I fashioned a buckskin pouch with a drawstring for it. This way folks won't know I'm cheatin' on the primitive thing  . Now don't tell the other guys on me bounce. ;D |
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Post by jabba on Mar 27, 2006 7:17:08 GMT -5
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Post by twomoons on Mar 27, 2006 9:47:43 GMT -5
I made an adapter to use air power to blow stuck charges out of muzzloaders and kept it in the shop. One day my brother comes in with a ball down his 50 and wants it removed. I handed him the adapter and told him to go over to the compressor and "point it at the wood pile". Pretty soon I hear whumpa-whumpa as the compressor kicks in and a few minutes later I hear Phweee as the compressor kicks off, but I DON'T hear a ball hitting the woodpile. Shortly there after I hear WHOOMP as 150 lbs of air propel a 50 cal round ball through the wall and whang, whang, whang,as the ball bounces off the lathe, the milling machine and the bench where I am working. The next thing I hear is my brother saying "Wow I didn't think it would come out that hard". This was rapidly followed by me screaming as I beat his a$$ around the shop with a broom.
There is a moral to this story and I now keep dangerous tools out of the hands of idiots.
Watch where you point that thing!
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Post by stumpjumper on Mar 27, 2006 12:43:05 GMT -5
Two Moons ~
What would I need to fabricate one of those stuck ball removers using the air compressor out in my shop. I was thinkin' of a brass piece that threads in the vent hole after the vent is removed for my flintlocks. But on my caplocks, should the drum be removed or would just the nipple work. I know on a few of my caplock, they have a plug into the drum itself, that will take me straight into the breech.
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Post by deputydon on Mar 27, 2006 18:20:32 GMT -5
I still have that Co2 unit in my possibles bag. I picked up a couple spare cylinders of Co2. I got them for my hunt out in Nebraska, as a just in case. Like Bounce pointed out. It ain't primitive, but nice to have on ya just in case. But I fashioned a buckskin pouch with a drawstring for it. This way folks won't know I'm cheatin' on the primitive thing . Now don't tell the other guys on me bounce. ;D Safety first is always the rule @ camp. And if that's the safe way then know one is gonna say anything. |
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Post by twomoons on Mar 28, 2006 11:28:27 GMT -5
For a persuction gun all you need is a 1/4-28 threaded tube that will adapt to an air hose. For a flinter you need to take off the lock and use a modified c clamp with a brass fitting and a leather pad. If it wern't so hard to post pictures I would show yo the tools.
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Post by deputydon on Mar 30, 2006 18:08:39 GMT -5
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Post by Bill on Mar 30, 2006 23:19:54 GMT -5
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