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Post by Bubba on Oct 21, 2005 14:52:30 GMT -5
Do any of you guys know anything about a .270 Roberts?
If a guy was to own one, let's say a Remington 700, would it be worth having? Without a scope? Is it a decent deer cartridge? What do you think the effective range is? What bullet weights are available? Etc?
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Post by klsm54 on Oct 21, 2005 17:33:38 GMT -5
Do you mean a 257 Roberts?
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Post by Jack on Oct 21, 2005 18:58:39 GMT -5
The 257 Roberts is a very nice deer cartridge, and usable for varmints, too- kinda like your 243, Bubba, except the 257 uses a slightly larger diameter bullet, and can use heavier bullets, too- up to 120 grains. The 270 Winchester is a classic flat shooting, open country deer cartridge, also capable of being used on elk. Both are very fine cartidges that have stood the test of time. The questiion now is, which cartridge is the rifle chambered for?  |
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Post by donnie on Oct 21, 2005 20:36:24 GMT -5
Bubba,
The .257 Roberts is an excellent cartridge only hampered by the round nose bullets most manufacturers load in it. This is easily overcome by loading spitzers. Another round you might like is the .257 Ackley improved, it is a tremendous round for deer sized critters and is also a superb varmint round!
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Post by Bubba on Oct 22, 2005 17:55:41 GMT -5
Sorry guys... it was a .257 Roberts... (the fat fingers got the best of me). Hmmm, sounds like a pretty nice rifle.... How is it out to 200 yards? I've got a buddy that is selling one for a fairly reasonable price and I thought I would add it to my collection. There's no scope on this rifle. It's got some mounts but no scope. He is taking the scope off for another rifle.
It is a Remington though and the price is (I think) right.... $300.... Around here there's no use for a rifle for deer... we're a shotgun only state so I don't think it's been used all that much... Oh, what the hey... I think I'll call him. I may add it to my collection and carry it to the Carolina hunt in November.... Thanks!
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Post by klsm54 on Oct 22, 2005 20:51:44 GMT -5
That sounds like a good deal Bubba. The 257 Roberts will do everything your 243 will do, only a little bit better. It is very similar to the 243 as a varmint cartridge, but will do a little better on deer since it will handle heavier 25 caliber bullets. It is a great cartridge that will be a great addition to your arsenal.
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Post by jimh on Oct 26, 2005 15:00:44 GMT -5
does it (i'm ignorant on this round so i thought i would ask)use the same 308 case? and if not is the case it uses hold anymore powder? sounds like it is almost a twin to the .260
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Post by jimh on Oct 26, 2005 15:33:19 GMT -5
once again i can't stand to wait. i ran this comparison to give me a clue. i wish all the bullet wts could have been the same but it didn't give me that option.  |
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Post by donnie on Oct 26, 2005 20:20:48 GMT -5
I'm not positive of this Jim but I am pretty sure, The above charts are comparing a round nose bullet to a spitzer and not shedding a very favorable light on what the roberts can actually be made to do. It is just one of those cartridges that never really developed a fan base. IMHO mostly because of the anemic loads with ballisticly inferior projectiles. The charts are comparing spire point bullets to rn's Also comparing Remingtons best factory load "premier" in the .260 and .243 to thier "average" express loading. If we loaded the .257 with the same quality control measures and high quality componants the tables would be much less skewed in favor of thier proprietary .260 Just one mans opinion.
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Post by jimh on Oct 27, 2005 7:01:53 GMT -5
Donnie, you are 100% correct. unfortunately that is the only option for comparison that remington offered me. i thought by posting this maybe folks here who have one and roll their own could expand on the 257's potential. the 260. looks really nice, i'll have to take a look at the .260 & 7mm08 for grins.
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Post by Jack on Oct 27, 2005 10:34:13 GMT -5
The 257 Roberts is based on the 7x57 case necked down to 257. The 6mm Remington is also based on the 7x57 necked down to 6mm (243).
The 243 is bases on the 308 case, necked down, and so is the 260 Rem, and the 7mm-08 (and the 358 Win).
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Post by jimh on Oct 27, 2005 15:24:41 GMT -5
bubba, so did you get the 257??
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Post by Bubba on Oct 28, 2005 16:27:18 GMT -5
Jimh... not yet, I'm going to see the guy tomorrow. I may be able to chew him down a bit on the price. If things go like I plan, it should have a new home tomorrow evening.
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Post by Bubba on Oct 29, 2005 15:06:40 GMT -5
Well, I didn't get this rifle anyway. When I got at this guys house, he was gone. I went down town, did a little shopping, got a cup-o-coffee, ate lunch and went back. He was there the second time.
Anyway, there was a little difference in price from what he said originally and what he said today. A couple hundred dollars difference but that was ok. I was willing to go up a little. Anyway, when he broke it out for me to look at, it looked like something that had come out of the second world war. The stock was cracked and all scratched to hell, the barrel and action was in need of a blue job really bad and it was just in poor shape. I told him then that I wouldn't go over $200 for it because of its condition. So, I left without the rifle and I hope with no bad feelings.
Thanks for all your opinions and information. Maybe someday I'll find one I can afford and still looks good.
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Post by sebastian on Oct 30, 2005 12:03:10 GMT -5
Good decision there Bubba!. No bad feeling for a not nice rifle....seb.
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