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Post by Purebred Redneck on Oct 24, 2012 22:09:57 GMT -5
Just throwing this out there since I have about $250 in free money at Cabelas. Probably more curouis than serouis, but I'll certainly use it for later reference. If you were looking for a light-weight semi-auto 12ga for around perhaps $600 used or $800 new, what would you be suggesting?
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Post by jimh on Oct 24, 2012 22:31:56 GMT -5
Red, the Franchi 712 is super light weight and easy to take down. if you recall, you shot mine and shot it well. you can easily find one in your price range. this is a gas system gun not inertia driven, has the rotating bold head from Benelli.
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Post by bounce on Oct 25, 2012 7:58:05 GMT -5
Remington or Winchester, My pick would be the remington in .410 or 28ga
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Post by jimh on Oct 25, 2012 8:33:25 GMT -5
Red, BTW 12 ga or 20 ga ?
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Post by deputydon on Oct 25, 2012 9:15:53 GMT -5
28 or 20 would be my choice...
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Post by jimh on Oct 25, 2012 9:24:16 GMT -5
28 or 20 would be my choice... you see the price of 28 ga shells? no way that cheapskate Red would buck up for ammo like that ;D
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Post by jmarriott on Oct 25, 2012 10:07:40 GMT -5
Personally there is no way I would pay 600-800 for an auto loader new or old.
I guess there are lots of them around and i guess they are good guns. Just my old wingmaster pump is as fast for me as an autoloader and after 35 years or racking a pump i have a feeling that my left hand would still be moving the slide back on an auto.
If you were say looking for a waterfall hunting gun as a speciality then the SBE is what I see out and about in the field. I guess i just like the old 870 to much and dad said I could do anything I needed with a shotgun with it when he bought it for me at 15. Since you are looking for something Light i think that is out as the seem rather heavy to me. Then again my 870 is not a lightweight gun.
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Post by dovehunter on Oct 25, 2012 14:54:41 GMT -5
If I was in the market for an autoloader now I would get a Remington model 1100. A few years back I traded a Browning A-5 jammamatic for one. It was probably the best trade I ever made. Mine is the Magnum variant and I don't consider it all that heavy (at least compared to the A-5).
Franchi made a really light weight autoloader some years back. It was recoil operated (like the A-5 jammamatic but seemed to be more dependable). The 20 ga. as recall only weighed about 5-lbs. If you could get that same model in a 12 ga. I would bet it would be really light weight.
I'd steer clear of those .410's and 28's. They may be great for carrying, but IMHO, they ain't worth crap for shooting.
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Post by bounce on Oct 25, 2012 18:41:18 GMT -5
I had a Franchi a few years back, beautiful gun but I got rid of it just as fast as I could after shooting it once, oh I was dumb enough to try it some more. It kicked the snot out of my head thats for shure it worked well indeed for that.
Yes I would love to have two Remington 1100's 28 ga & .410 But likely never will.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Oct 25, 2012 19:30:48 GMT -5
Red, the Franchi 712 is super light weight and easy to take down. if you recall, you shot mine and shot it well. you can easily find one in your price range. this is a gas system gun not inertia driven, has the rotating bold head from Benelli. I remember it, I did shoot it good. I couldn't remember what model it was. I was looking on Franchi's site and thought it could have been a 48 (though the 48's don't come in 12ga if I read it right). I would agree on the Remington 1100 if weight was not important to me. Those suckers are pushing 8 pounds like my 870. But as Jmarriot said, perhaps a light weight pump might be the ticket (and cheaper). Either way I would have strong preference (almost a dealbreaker) to the safety being located behind the trigger, like Remington. I would probably be pretty set on the 12ga, perhaps the 20. I like the 20 gauge, great squirrel gun and I've killed a lot of rabbits with dogs too. I think for busting through brush and shots past 35yards, it starts to serouisly lack. There are lots of ways to manipulate a 12ga to keep it from making applesauce out of critters, while also making it easier to hit the target in the first place. I'd rather have a 12ga improved than a 20ga modified - going to have about the same density but with a bigger pattern.
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Post by jimh on Oct 25, 2012 19:46:22 GMT -5
I had a Franchi a few years back, beautiful gun but I got rid of it just as fast as I could after shooting it once, oh I was dumb enough to try it some more. It kicked the snot out of my head thats for shure it worked well indeed for that. Yes I would love to have two Remington 1100's 28 ga & .410 But likely never will. bounce i have a Franchi 712 you shot a totaly different animal. mine is a gas operated system much like a 1100 remmy but mine has the Benelli rotating bolt head. I know what you mean when you shoot a particular brand gun and have a bad experiance but that would be like comparing a Rem 710 to a Rem 700.
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Post by Jack on Oct 26, 2012 0:18:54 GMT -5
Looking at a few websites, the Remingtons are heavy- that new Versamax goes over 8 pounds. The Franchi Affinity, and the Winchester SX3 are listed at 6.5 pounds.
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Post by bounce on Oct 26, 2012 7:42:52 GMT -5
I to had a nice winchester years back 1400? I think it was a very likeable gun, but it went bye bye on a trade, but no complants at all and would not mind another.
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Post by jimh on Oct 26, 2012 7:58:51 GMT -5
I to had a nice winchester years back 1400? I think it was a very likeable gun, but it went bye bye on a trade, but no complants at all and would not mind another. had one as well, worked everytime but i would not put it down as a light gun. it's not overly heavy either just not as light as others. however for Red, the real plus will be the price. you should be able to pick one up for around 325.00 or less. ;D i do beleive though they are only 2 3/4" chambers incase that matters.
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