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Post by Purebred Redneck on Jun 30, 2012 13:18:21 GMT -5
I've been looking at some ammo on sale at Walmart for some time now and they just marked them down again to $20 a box (regular $45). So I'm the proud owner of 7 boxes of 7mag Winchester Supreme Elite 160gr XP3. You can't even find Power Points much under $25 now.
They are ballistic tip and they feel like a tough deep penetrating controlled expansion bullet. Other than that, I have no idea what to think about them other than they'll probably be very accurate.
Do you know what kind of reputation they have?
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Post by bounce on Jun 30, 2012 14:48:26 GMT -5
My experance is Ballistic tips mean you best resight your gun or at least check it or risk over shooting.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Jun 30, 2012 15:42:03 GMT -5
When I bought that Remington 742 30-06 last fall, my immediate thoughts were --- make the 30-06 my primary deer gun under 200 yards. And then make my Savage 110 the long range gun sighted in for perhaps 1" high at 200. These new bullets should zip through an antalope without ripping it in half. The question would be - is it too tough for whitetails or not tough enough for elk (I don't like seeing both pictures on the box). For elk though, I still have 35 rounds of 175gr bear claws.
Anyway, I have 12 boxes of 7mag ammo now. That should last me 20 years.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Jun 30, 2012 16:01:23 GMT -5
As usual, I've put myself in a situation ;D After reading on chuckhawks, cabelas, bass, and midway there are only 2 types of reviews --- excellent and godawefull. Seems 1/2 the people are getting 1" groups and 1/2 are getting in the range in the 4" range at 100 yards. It's certainly not what you would expect to see in a $50 box of ammo.  Maybe I'll get lucky  worst case I'll pass them on down the road |
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Post by bounce on Jun 30, 2012 20:40:27 GMT -5
I went back to useing the old standards, bottom line is we know they work well & the high price did nothing to justify an iffy change. Like the .17 HMR so well I thought well maybe? but found it to be well maybe not. This said I did not shoot enough for any true testing, I did't have to as I was mostly disapointed.
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Post by deputydon on Jun 30, 2012 21:08:13 GMT -5
When I bought that Remington 742 30-06 last fall, my immediate thoughts were --- make the 30-06 my primary deer gun under 200 yards. And then make my Savage 110 the long range gun sighted in for perhaps 1" high at 200. These new bullets should zip through an antalope without ripping it in half. The question would be - is it too tough for whitetails or not tough enough for elk (I don't like seeing both pictures on the box). For elk though, I still have 35 rounds of 175gr bear claws. Anyway, I have 12 boxes of 7mag ammo now. That should last me 20 years. 12 boxes X 20 rounds = 240 DEAD critters !!! ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by deputydon on Jun 30, 2012 21:10:31 GMT -5
I went back to useing the old standards, bottom line is we know they work well & the high price did nothing to justify an iffy change. Like the .17 HMR so well I thought well maybe? but found it to be well maybe not. This said I did not shoot enough for any true testing, I did't have to as I was mostly disapointed. I have on coon the 17 HMR is deadly !!!!! So anything smaller would be the same. On fox I THINK it will work but I haven't got to see...... On Bobcat or coyote don't know for the same reason. |
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Post by jmarriott on Jun 30, 2012 21:20:38 GMT -5
The 7mm mag is a very flatshooting round and those rounds are flat shooting for a 7mm mag.
You should be even fine on elk as the speed will allow expansion for boilerroom shots. Just don't hit the shoulder. Grandma shoots a 7mm mag.
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Post by deputydon on Jun 30, 2012 21:53:48 GMT -5
The 7mm mag is a very flatshooting round and those rounds are flat shooting for a 7mm mag. You should be even fine on elk as the speed will allow expansion for boilerroom shots. Just don't hit the shoulder. Grandma shoots a 7mm mag. That's one TOUGH G-ma |
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Post by Jack on Jun 30, 2012 22:37:04 GMT -5
"1/2 the people are getting 1" groups and 1/2 are getting in the range in the 4" range at 100 yards"
Every rifle has its preferences. If your rifle likes that ammo, you'll be fine.
BTW, I wonder how many guys getting 4 inch groups can really shoot? On the Internet, everyone can shoot bugholes- in real life, not so much.
Don't worry about what's written on the 'Net. Go by how your rifle performs.
Seems to me a 7mm Magnum shooting 160's should be able to handle anything up to and including elk.
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Post by bounce on Jul 1, 2012 7:52:30 GMT -5
I tried them on my .32 special and they shoot 2" higher than standard same in 30-30 As I leave my guns shooting 1" high this is now 3 " I din't change my sights just stoped useing the plastic tips as I had one expencive box and several of the old. Again I decided the price not worth it.
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Post by Bill on Jul 2, 2012 7:53:39 GMT -5
If I remember right the bullet they use is actually the Winchester copy of the Nosler Accubond bullet and should shoot great and work great. Only difference between them and the ballistic tip is the fact that their bonded. Lead bonded to the jacket. This keeps the bullet from shedding their jackets. Not a bad thing. They do open up nicely due to the plastic tip but also do penetrate. I have used them and they work so quit worrying about it and just go shoot your deer/antelope.
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Post by xphunter on Jul 2, 2012 22:12:21 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by jimh on Jul 3, 2012 21:27:56 GMT -5
red any 280 rem or 7-08 at that walmart?
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Jul 3, 2012 23:23:55 GMT -5
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worst case I'll pass them on down the road
