|
|
Post by deputydon on Mar 20, 2011 12:34:58 GMT -5
Allie and I were @ a Whitetails Unlimited Banquet last Friday and she won a Bear Scout Bow. This was perfect timing as she has been bugging me about bow hunting every since she shot her buck last rifle season. This will be a good practice bow. But it's not a hunting bow. So what will be a good kids hunting bow for her. I still got my left handed Grizzly but haven't shot a bow or done anything w/ one since I broke my neck in '89. Sooo I'm out of the loop when it comes to archery. Suggestions ?
|
|
|
|
Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 20, 2011 14:23:51 GMT -5
I'd sell that bow without even firing it. At least it will bring a little bit of money to fund your new bow. Archery in 2011 is a very pecular and arrogant sport. Everyone wants the best and if you don't get the best, you'll be looked down upon. The key is finding a dealer who knows their stuff and doesn't give a damn about impressing people. I'm going to assume you don't want to get too crazy with the price. I'd want a 50 pounder --- whether it's a 40-50 or something else. I doubt she'd be able to pull 50 right now but that's what she needs to get to as fast she possibly can. I wouldn't let her hunt unless she could pull 45. How tall is she now and how tall is she likely to be? With Hoyt stopping the Reflex sub-brand, that takes a significant amount of economical bows off the market. Several years ago, I looked a Bear and was fairly impressed at the quality; the design just wasn't what I was looking for. I didn't like the bracket on the limb...I still don't...cosmetic though. www.beararcheryproducts.com/bows/compound/apprentice/Even comes in pink 15"-27" 20-50lbs 70% let off www.beararcheryproducts.com/bows/compound/home-wrecker/22"-28" 40-50lbs 80% let off If she's at least 22" and can already pull 40, I know what I'd get. Your luck she'll grow to 5'10'' and would need a 28" draw. Plus I think it would probably be made better. This might need a bow press where the other does not. I haven't seen or heard much about Parker but they're still around. Just from the pictures and the specs, I kinda like this more than the Bear. parkerbows.com/pb/2007/bowselect.html?action=detail&detailsku=1095&sex=Female&age=8-16&experience=intI do not like the 20-40 pound bow they offer and would not get that (I'd get the bear which puts you at 50). But I do really like the specs on that 40-60 pound pull. That's 10 more pounds than the bear offers and she very well might be able to pull 55 or even 60 pounds someday. They say PSE is a better product than it was 15 years ago. They say that about Ruger and Federal though too...I don't know...   I'd pass on PSE, when you put out junk for a couple of decades you're never going to win me over. A brief look at their website shows the bow your after is still a piss poor made bow! PASS If she can meet the specs of 22" and 40lbs, I kinda like that Parker. I'd check it out in person somewhere and make it the frontrunner |
|
|
|
Post by deputydon on Mar 20, 2011 14:49:15 GMT -5
Allie is 11 years old an stands@ 5'7'' and weights 130 lbs. the Doctor's charts based on measuring between certain joints project that she will end up around 6'1" to 6'3". I'm betting she won't be far from the 6'3". While she is FAST and can jump like a deer and throw a softball farther than all the girls and almost all the buys in her class (she has set new school records each year for that grade she's in during track meets) Her weak point is her arm strength. So actually drawing a bow should improve her arm strength. And yes I figure I'll have to buy her a second bow as she grows. But I have a granddaughter who maybe could use the old one.....
|
|
|
|
Post by jmarriott on Mar 20, 2011 14:52:15 GMT -5
My PSE has been trouble free since 1995. Now it has cost Grit's (my local bow dealer) a bit of trouble. I have had a cam and the string replaced twice but all at PSE's expense. Mine has a lifetime warranty and the nice thing is next time it needs anything done I will get a new bow cause they don;t have any cams for mine anymore. That lifetime unlimited deal cost me a postage stamp and 20 dollars and includes everything on the bow including strings and all pse accesories. I will not band mouth PSE line but what I am about to say even stuns me. I never thought I would say this: Check out this Mathews bow for kids (teens to small adults) www.spiritquestarchery.com/KidsCorner/YouthMathewsBows.htmlCheck out the menace. 7 ich brace height is nice feature and under 3 pounds. Needs sights and extra.s so you are talking 300 plus arrows and standard starter stuff. That link has so more Kids stuff on it. My handloading instructor has his kid setup with a menace. That kid can shoot. He is also growing like a weed as they seem to do. |
|
|
|
Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 20, 2011 16:10:00 GMT -5
Allie is 11 years old an stands@ 5'7'' and weights 130 lbs. the Doctor's charts based on measuring between certain joints project that she will end up around 6'1" to 6'3". I'm betting she won't be far from the 6'3". While she is FAST and can jump like a deer and throw a softball farther than all the girls and almost all the buys in her class (she has set new school records each year for that grade she's in during track meets) Her weak point is her arm strength. So actually drawing a bow should improve her arm strength. And yes I figure I'll have to buy her a second bow as she grows. But I have a granddaughter who maybe could use the old one..... Wow  She might be at a 27" right now. I think you can do this with 1 bow if you'd like --- a regular adult bow. That would probably get her through the next 10 years till she just wants a new bow. There should be something out there that can have a draw range of 26-31" and a pull weight of 45-60lbs. The 45-60 is an oddball, but I know they've made them in the past. If she can pull 50 right now, you'd be golden. Regardless of which direction you go, remember that fps are going to be quoted with a long pull and a heavy pull for each bow. So if it says 280fps, her setup will probably be closer to 220, if that. |
|
|
|
Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 20, 2011 16:11:02 GMT -5
Neb's not a crossbow state, is it?
|
|
|
|
Post by deputydon on Mar 20, 2011 20:19:10 GMT -5
Neb's not a crossbow state, is it? It is now !!!! I'm not sure if I like this but the state don't care what I think or what most anyone else thinks for that matter they're after the almighty dollar.... Nothing more and nothing less!!!!!! |
|
|
|
Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 20, 2011 21:12:46 GMT -5
I tell you what, a lot of people say the crossbow is not an advantage over the compound. And those people would be WRONG. I've shot deer with a crossbow before (with hardly any practice - maybe 5 shots) and it is just so much easier and better.
Not only would a good crossbow shoot almost 100fps faster but you don't have to worry about pulling the bow back (the part that deer are most likely to see). It's pretty simple - put the red dot a couple inches low inside 20, dead on at 25, and a few inches high at 35. It is a deer killing machine and I personally don't have any moral questions about the use of it. Unlike muzzleloader season which was intentionally created for historical purposes, the modern archery season was created well after people were using the modern compound bow. Bow season has zero history behind it.
There's only 2 negatives with the crossbow
1. You can do what my dad's friend did and shoot his finger off when his hand was in the way
2. You have to pull 150 pounds back if you do not have a crank (whose models are pretty darn costly). That would be my concern that if you two were to seperate she could not put another arrow in.
A crossbow may not be her best bet right now. But as soon as they become fully legal in MO, you can bet my compound is going straight in the trash can.
|
|
