|
Tooling
Jan 10, 2011 18:08:21 GMT -5
Post by twomoons on Jan 10, 2011 18:08:21 GMT -5
You buy the choke tubes ready made, the rest is not real labor intensive but the tooling costs an arm and a leg. About $500 per gauge per thread diameter and when the tooling is dull, say 15 jobs you have to buy new stuff. That's why the big price.
|
|
|
Tooling
Jan 10, 2011 19:42:57 GMT -5
Post by jimh on Jan 10, 2011 19:42:57 GMT -5
i would not say that was a big price, especialy considering you were throwing in a choke as well. what i'm looking for though is maybe a custom choke or two made for my factory threaded guns. these would be for card shoots and such. thought maybe you were making chokes too.
|
|
|
Tooling
Jan 11, 2011 11:25:05 GMT -5
Post by twomoons on Jan 11, 2011 11:25:05 GMT -5
Win choke or Rem choke? Shot size and approx load and I will see what's available. How much constriction do you need/ want and do you want ported. Tubes can run from $35 for a 665 constriction extra full to $95 for a patternmaster tube. Bear in mind that the tightest constriction might not be best with your load a 675 tube with #4 shot might shoot tighter than a 665 tube.
|
|
|
Tooling
Jan 11, 2011 12:46:09 GMT -5
Post by jimh on Jan 11, 2011 12:46:09 GMT -5
this would be for my beretta with the optima plus choke system. i'm looking to shoot #8's 1 1/8 oz loads and can be no tighter than .678". looking for straight rifling for keeping the pattern from twisting and also to help strip the wad from the shot column. distance is about 75'. would like an extra long parallel section after the constriction. highly polished and garanteed to win me some $$ and beef.
|
|
|
Tooling
Jan 11, 2011 22:05:47 GMT -5
Post by twomoons on Jan 11, 2011 22:05:47 GMT -5
Extra full 690 extended tube with extra long straight section and knurled extended front. $30.00 it might be worth a try? Suppose to deliver the best extra full patterns. They make a card shooters choke for your gun BUT it is 673 constriction and not for above #7 1/2 shot.
|
|
|
Tooling
Jan 11, 2011 23:36:01 GMT -5
Post by jimh on Jan 11, 2011 23:36:01 GMT -5
there are places i could order a choke from, i thought you might be in the choke makeing buisness as well. if you were i always prefer to give my $$ to someone i know (or at least share internet time with). the card shoot chokes are usualy for #9 or #8, they tend to choke them down abruptly and you can do that with the smaller shot size as it will be more fluid like, however try to throw some larger size shot like for actual turkey hunting and it can get ugly. on those chokes they will taper the constriction down over a longer distance, giving the shot column more time/room to rearange as the larger shot is less fluid like and can cause some ugly results both to the pattern and more important to the gun if you try to choke it down too fast. on the card shoot chokes with the smaller shot size, and the shorter distance you need the pattern to hold together you can take some liberties, however i've seen some chokes throw softball size pattern at say 68' and just blow all to hell at 71' and beyond. it's a trial and error deal sometimes. i don't go to the big meat shoots anymore where we use to shoot boards at 90' for sides of beef and $$, i just hit a couple local meat shoots by the lions club and vfw post anymore. wish i had my old model 37 from my old shoot days.
|
|
|
Tooling
Jan 12, 2011 18:42:05 GMT -5
Post by twomoons on Jan 12, 2011 18:42:05 GMT -5
Here's why you want to buy one ready made. These are made on automatic machinery with lathes and cutters set up to do the job by robot. If I made a choke in my shop with my hand lather and threaded it and cut stripping grooves with a key way cutter the darn choke would cost $200. If you watch how its Made you'll get an idea of how the CNC machines turn stuff out. I have a 1949 South Bend Lathe and a Grizzly Mill and a hand operated surface grinder so I mostly do the jobs that the cnc guys are not set up to do.
|
|
|
Tooling
Jan 13, 2011 16:11:50 GMT -5
Post by jimh on Jan 13, 2011 16:11:50 GMT -5
For pure hunting use i agree 100% with you. but, ............ if you want to be able to go out and really compete against guys in the more world of outlaw type shoots you will be wasting all your $$ on a factory choke.
|
|