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Post by dovehunter on Dec 2, 2010 14:03:08 GMT -5
Never having actually hunted with a ML, I've always wondered what you did at the end of the hunting day if you didn't get a shot. Do you shoot the load in the barrel and then clean it or do you just remove the percussion cap (or priming charge) and leave the gun loaded for the next day's hunt?
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Post by bounce on Dec 2, 2010 15:43:43 GMT -5
Depends, but I always leave it loaded "if" it was clean and loaded properly. If so a gun is most likely fine for the seasion if no real wet weather is incounterd. If a gun is fired in the days hunt, yes it must be emptyed at the hunts end and cleaned or it will likely never go off after 2 or 3 hours and almost never the next day. Always start with a clean gun & loaded properly each day if shot the day before.
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Post by deputydon on Dec 2, 2010 18:13:28 GMT -5
Depends, but I always leave it loaded "if" it was clean and loaded properly. If so a gun is most likely fine for the seasion if no real wet weather is incounterd. If a gun is fired in the days hunt, yes it must be emptyed at the hunts end and cleaned or it will likely never go off after 2 or 3 hours and almost never the next day. Always start with a clean gun & loaded properly each day if shot the day before. ;D What he said. ;D
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Dec 2, 2010 19:45:38 GMT -5
Also if the gun is exposed to the cold, then you shouldn't take it in the house because it will sweat. I loaded mine last sunday and still have the load in it. I plan to hunt again this sunday but will fire out the load when I get there and start over to be on the safe side. This is doe season for firearms but I'm at a muzzleloader only area. Muzzleloader season starts the 18th but I just don't feel good about leaving it loaded for 3 weeks. She's my baby and I'm overprotective of her. As far as being corrosive, it would have probably been fine. I haven't had any problems shooting the gun one day and hunting with the dirty barrel the next day. Of course I loosen the bolster screw and put a pinch more powder down it.
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Post by jmarriott on Dec 2, 2010 22:58:35 GMT -5
See that is just another reason that god decided to give humans a brain in which to think of finer ways of doing things like make metallic cartridges.
stainless steel synthetic stocked In-lines with tape over the end of the barrel and a 209 shotgun primmer with pyrodex pellets should be good for at least a month without a discharge. The older open concept flintlock/musket type old timers are much more likely to get wet and need attention.
Take ever one else answer on this one as I have never really been into the whole stink pole thing.
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Post by bounce on Dec 3, 2010 9:13:12 GMT -5
Then do everyone a favor, and scrap that stainless steel synthetic basterd in the trash and stick with your metallic cartridges. If god did give you a brain, this is a no brainer!!
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Post by jmarriott on Dec 3, 2010 10:07:20 GMT -5
Bounce you a correct i don't have a stainless steel synthetic stocked In-line so I don't have to place anything in the trash, I guess i should use purple text for scarcassum. Sometimes scarcasum does not come thru in posts as well as it does in person.
There is one lyman plains rifle i want as it was my father friends rifle and I know who bought it. It is one pretty rifle. brass and deep blue. Nice walnut with lots of it. If i ever purchase a smoke pole that is the one I want.
We do have lots of people in Indiana who prefer the muzzleloaders but 90 % use inlines with pyrodex pellets and sabots to extend range to around 200 yards. It is more of a way to extend range than use old guns like the season was made for.
They do just as I described and stick 3 50 grain pyrodex pellets and a 240 grain or higher sabot and tap the barrel and stick the 209 in and are ready to go when the shot happens,
I guess maybe i need to come up and see you guys so you can convince me what I am missing out on. Has to be something as the flinters are a hard core group and stick to there guns. I just never been around one that grouped well enough for me to want to invest the time and money to learn the ways of the flinter.
P.s. the plains rifle woulld group 3 shots in 3 inches offhand at 80 yards. That was the best I have ever seen a non inline do.
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Post by bounce on Dec 3, 2010 14:58:19 GMT -5
I my self gave up on Flinters, It's not that they are not just as accurect but holding them till the shot is gone is a bitch for many as myself. I did do better when hunting than at target shooting but still was to ifiy and the percushon cap was my fix. The Lyman great plains rifle is a fine one and one re-done by T/M's is a great rifle. Though in my ageing condition pretty heavy anymore. Funny how that is as I use to realy like heavy Rifles, Wonder if bill is hearing this? LOL.
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Post by Bill on Dec 4, 2010 9:37:54 GMT -5
Yup, I got used to heavy guns and still hunt with them in both my ML and CF Rifles. Might not carry them as far but I can still shoot them far. ;D ;D Something I learned a long time ago with my ML rifle I use for hunting. It hates clean bore shots. So when I'm getting ready to go hunting I will go out the day before if I can and fire the gun off. I then use a grease patch to load the ball down the barrel with plenty of lube on the patch. I never clean the gun unless I am not going to be hunting for a few days and then I will give it a good cleaning and put it away until I know I'm going hunting. At my old house back home I had a stump next to the garage and use to load the gun and fire a round into the stump and then reload it again and go hunting. Neighbor's never complained. When I was in western Nebraska I would just drive down the road and knew of a couple places I could fire a round off in the ditch and would do that and then reload and go hunting. Just part of the pain of having a gun that like to shoot dirty. ;D
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Post by bounce on Dec 4, 2010 10:48:07 GMT -5
Well I seem to have some guns that that would never work as they seem to grow moss a few hours after shooting and reloaded, any way they just may never go off. But always will if cleaned.
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Post by Jack on Dec 8, 2010 22:05:20 GMT -5
Dovehunter, if it's been a rainy day, I shoot the rifle and then clean it at the end of the day. On a dry day, I might remove the cap and leave it loaded overnight. I have seen, but never tried, a CO2 powered 'unloader' that blasts the load out of your barrel so you can save the bullet and powder. You might not have to clean it after using the unloader.
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Post by bounce on Dec 8, 2010 23:30:11 GMT -5
It would take a good catchers mitt to save that load & bullet lol. As I have one, works good but I do it out side and don't bother to save anything, but your right , cleaning would not be nessasary. just load again the next day, but likely unloading was not nessasary either just only if you shoot and reload does it need to come out or if rain got down the niple hole.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Dec 8, 2010 23:30:51 GMT -5
All these new rifles have removable breech plugs. All you have to do is pop the load out the back with the ramrod. I wouldn't use a wood rod or a flimsy synthetic rod though because it's a pretty good pop - bullet goes flying like 5 feet ;D
I'd push a load out to save the bullet but surely not the powder.
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Post by jabba on Dec 9, 2010 7:37:53 GMT -5
Since I use an evil inline rifle with a 209 primer... I tend to leave them loaded for a week at a time. Once a load is a week old, I shoot it, spit patch, and reload. I am NOT a fan of pelletized powder. I shoot 777.
Even when I was shooting BP with #11 caps, I only had my gun NOT go off ONCE, and upon further inspection, the cap was bad. I would normally do a visual inspection of the cap before putting it on... but for some reason that ONE time I did not.
Shooter error.
Jabba
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Dec 9, 2010 9:34:08 GMT -5
Even when I was shooting BP with #11 caps, I only had my gun NOT go off ONCE, and upon further inspection, the cap was bad. I would normally do a visual inspection of the cap before putting it on... but for some reason that ONE time I did not. Remington's are the worst for that. Sometimes the little priming material becomes unsealed and falls out. You don't want to go hunting with that one ;D I had my gun loaded for about 3 weeks or so this year. I didn't want it loaded another 2-3 weeks so I shot it out a couple nights ago. It would have been fine as it fired without a hitch.
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