Santa needs to bring me a scope this year

[Purebred Redneck]

I believe my 17hmr needs a new scope

I have a Tasco (3rd) World Class

Last year I shot it at the range it was about 4 inches off from the year before and I only took it hunting once. This year I shot it at the range the same time of year and it was off about 3-4 inches.


I might see about sending it in for warrenty and then selling it as I was never too happy with the clarity beyond 10x anyway.

[jmarriott]

What are you looking for and your normal yardage to shot with it.

Many rimfire scope are parrellaxed at 50 yards shotguns scopes to 75 and rifle scopes at 100. With the 17 hmr i guess all could be used.

Lots of people shy away from the BSA lineup of scopes. the platinum series is fairly good for the money. talking 120 dollars with AO target knobs target dot sun free shade and cheap bore sighter. 6-24 power. have one on dad target ruger and it rocks. It is no weaver 16 power fixed but it is 1/3 the price.

swfa.com/BSA-6-24x44-Platinum-Target-Riflescope-P1953.aspx

[Purebred Redneck]

Oct 16, 2010 11:25:16 GMT -5 jmarriott said:

Lots of people shy away from the BSA lineup of scopes.

And for good reason ;D ;D ;D

At the time I bought the World Class, I looked at the BSA you mentioned as well as a cheaper Bushnell. With the BSA and Bushnell - if you as much blinked, everything went black
Never again...

I'd be looking for something in the range of 4-16X but might settle for 12 or 14. This gun is so accurate (on cool calm days, which is the only days I shoot it) that I think it really needs the additional power to live up to all it's potential. But of course, it needs to be realistic on the low end too because it is used for winter squirrel hunting - you never know when one is going to be right on top of you.
I mainly shoot 50-100 shots a year at 100 yards and go out a couple times hunting. Hunting ranges tend to be 50-75 yards since I find me a nice blowdown on a sunny ridge and I just camp out there. As far as paralex, I'd be looking for the AO.
And it would need to be as light weight as I can find given the fact I'm already dealing with a bull barrel and bulky wood stock. 16-18 ounces at most.

I'm looking at a Mueller scope I've heard good things about.
Dad mentioned he could play around with figures and probably get a Redfield or a Burris for the same price.

This is still a rimfire, there's no need to get crazy. I want to be out the door for around $125.

I have time to shop around, I probably won't go out with it this winter. Buy it in a couple months and shoot it this spring maybe.

[jmarriott]

Swift premiere will cost 200 plus with AO and 4-12. Other than that you have your usual suspects. Might sudgest a 3-8-32 or 40 redfield at 139 159 but you lose AO.

I don;t have issues with the BSA platinum but it is not what i would have purchased myself. I have been pleased with it up to about 22 power. at 24 it is a little fuzzy,

I think ebay is calling for you.

[Purebred Redneck]

Oct 16, 2010 17:50:24 GMT -5 jmarriott said:

I think ebay is calling for you.

I can buy a Mueller 4.5x14x40 for $114.95 shipped on ebay. I have $113.99 credit in the paypal account. If I didn't get drunk and buy that "WWPHD What would Phil Harris Do" sleeveless T-shirt, I could of bought that free and clear ;D

I'll have to think about this Mueller. This is the same brand that made that POS red dot...2 red dots...that didn't work last year.

I see Simmon's sells the Aetec for about $150. 4x14x44. Weighs a couple ounces less than the Mueller. I tend to like Simmons scopes. The aetec has side paralex and the mueller has the ao on the front. No big deal either way I guess (I'm used to the front)

I wonder which would be more clear

[Jack]

"I'll have to think about this Mueller. This is the same brand that made that POS red dot...2 red dots...that didn't work last year"
Learn from your mistakes, Red.
Bushnell makes a couple scopes that might fit your criteria in their Trophy series.
If you can give up the AO feature, Redfield, Weaver V series, Pentax's low end, and even the low end Nikons come into play. All would be far better than a Mueller, IMO.

[Purebred Redneck]

Yeah, Mueller doesn't give me the warm fuzzies. Their customer service was A+ though

Oct 16, 2010 23:04:35 GMT -5 Jack said:

If you can give up the AO feature,

I guess that would be my concern.

The paralex is suppost to be set at 100 yards. For the majority of X brand's scopes, that's true but there's always going to be those that are set for 80 or 120 yards. And here I am wanting to use 14x --- it might not work
At even your typical 9 power, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. But I think the upper magnification will be different if in fact there is an error.

I'd rather be able to make subtle adjustments if needed instead of having yet another worthless scope.

[Purebred Redneck]

Here we go

swfa.com/Simmons-6-21x44-44-Mag-Rifle-Scope-P13111.aspx

Good reviews, plenty of power, and very light weight.

$130 (reg 210 at cabelas) plus shipping but there's a 25% mail in rebate. Be under $115 I imagine.

I know they have a ebay account and accept paypal. If I call in the order, they might even take paypal over the phone (it won't doing an internet order from their site).

I'll think about this but I'm pretty sure this is the way I'm going. I'll probably still send in the old tasco in hopes of getting a new one...and then sell it for 50 bucks.

[bounce]

Mine never leaves the #3 seting for shooting, this is with all my scopes I shoot at their lowest seting. The higher setings are just for that,"scopeing out" It has never improved my shooting to crank up a scope and more than likely will make me shoot worse. I consuder anything with 1-1/2 power to 4 excelent shooting powers. 9 & more is for what is that?

[Purebred Redneck]

I'm a knob player

At the range, I shoot at the highest magnification. When hunting, I shoot at the highest magnifiction I can get away with.

Say a squirrel is 30 yards aways. I have the scope on 3x carrying it. Before shooting, I'll turn the dial without looking to get it somewhere between 5 and 7x which will maximize my chance of hitting it the first shot and not hurt my chance of missing any 2nd shot because the power was set too high.


In looking at this here scope, the lowest setting is 6x. I don't think it's a big deal. 6x represents the average power setting I shoot with when hunting anyway.


And something that I don't think people realize is that they are shooting high magnification at the shooting range. If they are shooting 22's with 3x9's (which is the most popular) they are probably shooting them at 7-9x at 50 yards and they think it's just about perfect.
But somehow a 14-18x at 100 is uncalled for
For that matter, if someone's shooting 3x at 25 yards that's actually high power too --- the 100 yard equivilant of 12x.

I think we need to put things into perspective a little bit

[bounce]

Red, If I would shoot as you do, I would shoot as you do also, LOL. And this is why I don't.

[jmarriott]

Simmons are made in china. I do have a simmons 3-9 japan scope and a simmons 22 mag scope 4X and for the money they work fine. I am pretty sure simmons and weaver are owned by mead optics nows.

if we include the simmons line look at the cheapest bushnell. I have a elite 3200 and it is nice but almost 6 times the price of the sportsman series.
swfa.com/Bushnell-4-12x40-Sportsman-Rifle-Scope-P4744.aspx

pentex are good scopes but like an ugly girl they get no lovin.

swfa.com/Pentax-3-9x40-Gameseeker-II-Rifle-Scope-P45831.aspx

I have a swift premiere handgun scope. Quality for the cash outlay,. Been setting on a 35 rem pistol barrel and now a 22 pistol for a bit.

swfa.com/Swift-4-12x40-Premier-Rifle-Scope-P8849.aspx

[jmarriott]

I have a old leo[old MB 6 power on my 222 now and I love it fixed 6 power is great.