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Post by twomoons on Nov 7, 2009 21:44:02 GMT -5
Bill, What is the best shot for a classic double??? I HAD some bismuth but now the only way I can get it is 3" mag shells and they don't fit. I have heard that some tungsten loads are OK but what? I am sorely tempted to just use lead and pay the fine if necessary. Today I checked out ever store in Yankton and the best I could find was some Federal Tungsten loads at 1.70 each that are SUPPOSE to be OK. I checked Ballistic Products and they don't have Bismuth any more and are selling ITX shot instead. Any help here?  |
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Post by Bill on Nov 8, 2009 8:02:06 GMT -5
Heavy shot makes a non-tox load for vintage firearms. Its ground up heavy shot mixed with a polymer with about the same consistency as lead. Its call Heavy shot for Vintage firearms and sells for about $3.00 per round. If your going to be determined to shoot a vintage firearm then you will have to learn to pay the price. Its why I still keep my old Remington 1100 around. The other way is to open the chokes clear up to cylinder and cylinder and shoot steel but then enough of that and the barrels will come apart. Even a little choking and steel with laminate the barrels. If your still determined to shoot a SXS then go buy a really cheap one with screw chokes and have at it. There are some really expensive ones also with screw chokes or you can have screw chokes installed but the problem with that is most of the older SXS's have soft soldered barrel's and its the soft solder that lets loose. The newer guns with screw chokes are brazed together and hold up very well. You can pick up a decent SXS like the little 28 ga that Dep-Don has in 12 gauge and they will shoot steel shot quite well. Of course even the 12 gauge guns like Dep-Don's now cost at least $900 or close to it even at Dealers pricing.
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Post by bounce on Nov 8, 2009 8:14:12 GMT -5
I'm thinking T/M's is duck hunting? otherwise I would Just use lead. And for ducks I would consider loading lead in hulls and boxes that say Heavy shot or the likes.
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Post by twomoons on Nov 8, 2009 11:36:10 GMT -5
Well I found a place on the web that sells Bismuth shot got two dollars a pound and i put in an order for some of that. I will load my ownb in clear fiocchi hulls and see how that works. The biggest problem here is that no one stocks that kind of stuff and so if you run out of shells youcant just go to the store for some more. Steel is only good on ducks to about 30 yards no matter what they tell you and i'll bet more ducks die from steel wounds than were ever killed by lead poisening.
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Post by Bill on Nov 8, 2009 18:36:53 GMT -5
Go to www.balllisticproducts.com and look at a product by Continuous Metal technology called I think ITX. Its 24% denser than steel and as soft as lead. Comes only in 2-4-6-00 and BB. |
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Post by twomoons on Nov 8, 2009 21:35:45 GMT -5
Thanks, i looked and I will probably order their 100 round kit.
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Post by dovehunter on Nov 9, 2009 9:00:29 GMT -5
You guys aren't in a state that requires non-lead shot for other than waterfowl are you? If you are I feel for you! I hope those ridiculous across-the-board lead shot bans never find there way here to Virginia. If they do, I will probably have to resort to bounce's suggestion.
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Post by twomoons on Nov 9, 2009 21:39:40 GMT -5
All right I found a place that sells pourable bismuth tin alloy. Due to Eley's patent he is not allowed to call it shot but I can get it in #4 size for 7 pounds for $60.00 I also ordered 100 clear Fiocchi cases so I could tell which ones are bismuth. I sould be able to start loading next week.
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