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Post by Purebred Redneck on Jun 20, 2009 0:05:23 GMT -5
I'm thinking this product may be worth buying when walking around with my cap and ball revolver. I hate shooting 1 or 2 shots (well...and the rest of the cylinder) and then go through the trouble of cleaning the whole gun. This stuff is advertized to be the only non-corrosive substitute on the market. It's suppost to be pretty hot stuff though. While it's really meant for inline rifles, there is load data for metalic cartridges. Unfortunatly it says to use with 209 primers only ! What's the worst that's going to happen, chucks of the percussion cap will come fly back towards your face  Could it destroy the threads? Actually the concern appears to be inconsistant ignition/hangfire. Of course it says "do not use percussion caps" but...maybe you can...? www.blackhorn209.com/files/pdf/brochure.pdfwww.blackhorn209.com/files/pdf/b209blackpowdercartridgedata.pdfIt looks like 10 grains is all you would want with the opentop 36's. and with the 44's you can probably go up to 20 grains or so with the Remington. Thoughts on safety and consistant ignition |
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Post by bounce on Jun 20, 2009 7:57:15 GMT -5
Why are you so adversive to just useing Black power? It realy don't get anybetter.
My guess is #11 caps are not concidered HOT enuff
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Jun 20, 2009 8:19:12 GMT -5
Because cleanup is 90 minutes --- which I don't mind doing if I shoot 100 shots. But not 1  |
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Post by deputydon on Jun 20, 2009 10:18:39 GMT -5
Because cleanup is 90 minutes --- which I don't mind doing if I shoot 100 shots. But not 1 Let's see run water, drink a beer, take gun out of holster, drink a beer, take aprt gun, drink a beer, wash parts, drink a beer, and so forth, and ect, ect, oh yea, drink a beer, .................  ::)Gosh 90 minutes would seem to me to be pretty fast I guess And drink a beer....................... |
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Post by bounce on Jun 20, 2009 11:02:21 GMT -5
Red for you just throw your pistol in a can of kerocean, when you want to use it again just take it out and blow it off with your air compresor. LOL.
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Post by klsm54 on Jun 20, 2009 13:48:33 GMT -5
We've discussed this to death. Until now nobody could understand how it could possibly take Red as long as claims to clean a blackpowder firearm. But it might be that Deputy Don has it figured out, 15 minutes cleaning time, 75 minutes beer drinking time.... ;D ;D
Seriously Red, you need to stop over cleaning, or over fiddling, or whatever you are overdoing that drags out the cleaning process beyond comprehension to everybody else that has ever cleaned a blackpowder arm.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Jun 20, 2009 14:53:49 GMT -5
Seriously Red, you need to stop over cleaning, or over fiddling, or whatever you are overdoing that drags out the cleaning process beyond comprehension to everybody else that has ever cleaned a blackpowder arm. All I know is that I've never undercleaned it  |
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Post by deputydon on Jun 20, 2009 18:24:27 GMT -5
Seriously Red, you need to stop over cleaning, or over fiddling, or whatever you are overdoing that drags out the cleaning process beyond comprehension to everybody else that has ever cleaned a blackpowder arm. All I know is that I've never undercleaned it But have you ever UNDERDRANK ? |
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Jun 22, 2009 22:18:36 GMT -5
This is a responce to an email I sent to the company. Bottom line is it's safe to use so long as you keep the barrel pointed in a safe direction during a hangfire or misfire - which they are pretty sure I would have.
What I do not understand whatsoever is how "primer energy" ignites this powder. Concussion ignites powder???
I think by engery he meant fire and heat.
I'm not sure of his wording Thank you for your interest in Blackhorn 209. BH209 requires more energy for ignition. A sealed system like the T/C Omega and others capture all the primer energy allowing BH209 to ignite properly. Open primer systems allow too much energy to escape, it will always take the path of least resistance. This will result in a hang fire or misfire. BH209 has about the same energy as T7 loose powder when properly ignited. You are correct that the warnings are strictly due to dealing with hang fires or misfires. You can try it, but I am certain you will have the same results that we experienced. Best regards, Don Luhr Western Powders
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Post by jabba on Jun 23, 2009 6:40:39 GMT -5
Primer energy is the fire from the primer. not the concussion. At least this is my interpretation of it. In your pistola, the spark goes where it shouldn't rather than where it should. If you have MORE spark. It's more likely to get to where it needs to be.
Jabba
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Post by jabba on Jun 23, 2009 6:41:07 GMT -5
Hey... isn't a pistol like than an "in-line"? Jabba |
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Jun 23, 2009 22:21:42 GMT -5
No, your inline is like my pistol |
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