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Post by jmarriott on Jun 5, 2009 8:29:17 GMT -5
Even with the price of these starting to go over the roof I just have to get one. I had a camper model located but I don't think he wants to sell it because his kids are just getting to shooting age. It is safe and available and still has the case.
I like the high cheek piece stock, and the deluxe with the two tone is just a fine look piece. I believe it is just a matter of time till I get a nice one to use for small game. I also Used to use it for trapping and if I ever see fur price start to go up I am going back to that hobby,
Someone here posted they upgraded the sights with I believe a 1911 sytle adjustable rear and a bead front. I admit the factory sights are poor and then no scope would be nessary.
My cousin has the camper version and I have a glock 45 he really likes so I might just kind of trade with him. The glock I can find anywhere.
Can someone remember who had that sight and what post it was in?
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Post by jimiowa on Jun 5, 2009 9:18:58 GMT -5
I don't remember who mentioned that.
I do have a 24 VL 222/20ga, and have never updated sights.
This is one of the newer ones, where th rifle and shotgun barrels are not intergal. The sight is part of the barrel band and would have to be milled off and a dovetail cut to change the front sight.
I do have a scope rail for it but have never scoped it.
It is one gun I have considered putting a red dot on.
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Post by dovehunter on Jun 5, 2009 13:55:17 GMT -5
Mine, as I believe, is one of the newer ones that had a block on the top barrel on which you could screw a standard rail for Weaver-style rings. Mine (bought used) - a .22LR over a 20 shotgun barrel - was missing the rear folding leaf sight. I ordered a new one from Savage and installed it. As I recall the factory rear sight ended up being too low. It's a standard dovetail slot. You could get another from Marble, Lyman, or maybe Williams. Just make sure that the rear sight you get is a compliment to the factory front sight (which appears to be a Williams on my gun).
I know a lot of the guys around here don't like them, but I installed a set of Weaver see-thru rings on mine and a 4x scope atop that. I usually keep the rear sight folded down on mine and look under the scope at the front sight for shotgun purposes and through the scope for rifle purposes. It works for me. I don't like having to contend with a low-mounted scope for relatively quick shooting with the shotgun barrel. If you don't use a scope, you'll just have to make sure you get a front and/or rear sight combination that will work. Mine didn't work worth a crap. My son's m24, on the other hand, worked very well with the folding rear sights and was, I thought, sufficiently accurate with the open sights. He wanted a scope on it however, so I fixed his up like mine with essentially the same results.
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Post by twomoons on Jun 8, 2009 9:21:48 GMT -5
The sight conversion was one I did for my father in law's gun. The original sight was a plastic small ramp and blade held on with a small screw and they bit the dust easy. The original sight in the 30's and 40's was steel but they are impossible to get anymore. The top barrel on the 22 lr guns is small diameter and a dovetail sight looks funny unless you cuustom make one and it has to be SMALL. I did make on one time from a post front sight taken off of a Rossi carbine and it worked nicely. I have always thought the 24 would be a good choice for a red dot as with practice you CAN wing shot with one and you aren't going to be shooting a combo gun at 100 yard targets anyway.
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Post by dovehunter on Jun 8, 2009 16:58:54 GMT -5
I probably shoot 10-20 shots out of the rifle barrel for every shot out of the shotgun barrel, so the 4X scope works fine for me. I carry this gun a lot when squirrel season coincides with deer or fall turkey season. I stoke the shotgun barrel with either #3 buckshot or no. 4 shot (depending on what I am most likely to see) in case a deer or turkey happens by. I've got one of those nylon bandoleer things that fits over the stock in which I keep both buckshot and small shot so I can usually change loads pretty quickly.
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Post by jmarriott on Jun 10, 2009 11:03:27 GMT -5
Shotgun rifle combo guns are illegal in Indiana during deer season.
I will be getting a 410 or 20 on the bottom and a 22 or 22 mag on top. Tree rats mainly and like I said If I ever get the feeling that i need to trap again nothing is better at dispatching a nasty coon and still get a bunny while walking.
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Post by jimiowa on Jun 10, 2009 11:25:31 GMT -5
Shotgun rifle combo guns are illegal in Indiana during deer season. I will be getting a 410 or 20 on the bottom and a 22 or 22 mag on top. Tree rats mainly and like I said If I ever get the feeling that i need to trap again nothing is better at dispatching a nasty coon and still get a bunny while walking. Since there is only one season that is legal to use a rifle and only the two tiers of counties bordering Missouri. The same is true in Iowa. I could use the .222/20ga with slugs, but best not have any rifle ammo on my person. |
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Post by dovehunter on Jun 10, 2009 12:30:46 GMT -5
jmarriott & jimiowa: As much as I complain about not being able to hunt on Sunday here in Virginia we still are a very liberal state where firearm restrictions for hunting is concerned. I believe I'll take the Sunday ban over the restrictions you guys described any time.  |
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Post by jmarriott on Jun 10, 2009 15:01:38 GMT -5
Well you can hunt on sunday in Indiana but you still cannot buy beer on sunday.
Some of the old blue laws are still in effect here. I could not see a sunday not being able to hunt. Effectively that could cut out almost half of my season since I normally work mon-fri with saterday and sunday off.
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Post by twomoons on Jun 10, 2009 19:15:53 GMT -5
If you don't miss you can call Sunday Killin'. My 24 is a 22 over 20 Ga and my father in law used it for his farm gun for 25 years. I bought this on in like new condition in I think 1973 for $25 or 30 dollars and gave it to Dad for Christmas. When he died it went to my daughter as she like to use Garndpa's rabbit killer. He used it to protect his fruit trees. I had one in 22-410 and just before they got to be collectors items i sold it to a buddy for $70 and thought I really honked him, if I only knew.
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Post by jimiowa on Jun 10, 2009 22:18:10 GMT -5
If you don't miss you can call Sunday Killin'. My 24 is a 22 over 20 Ga and my father in law used it for his farm gun for 25 years. I bought this on in like new condition in I think 1973 for $25 or 30 dollars and gave it to Dad for Christmas. When he died it went to my daughter as she like to use Garndpa's rabbit killer. He used it to protect his fruit trees. I had one in 22-410 and just before they got to be collectors items i sold it to a buddy for $70 and thought I really honked him, if I only knew. Makes sense to me, The 24 is the perfect Porch Gun on any farm or acerage, when I lived in the country mine was always just inside the door of the closet on the porch and the ammo on the shelf above it. Many a varmint was taken with it right out the back door. |
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Post by jmarriott on Jun 11, 2009 6:09:21 GMT -5
Protecting small apple trees, small game hunting and quite possiblly the ultimate survival gun.
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Post by dovehunter on Jun 11, 2009 10:57:23 GMT -5
I always wondered for years why the m24 was no more popular than it was (years ago). As Moons pointed out you could buy them all day for a song back in the 60s and 70's. Lord only knows how much I wish I still had the deluxe .22LR/20 model I bought with the money from my first real job back when I was 18. It had some really nice black walnut in the stock and forend with nice hand checkering. You could see your face in the bluing and I really loved that satin chrome receiver. It was one that had the sliding button on the side of the receiver to use to change from one barrel to the other - not as convenient as the more recent models but I still wish I had it now. Like a damn fool, I traded it off in a trading frenzy.
Now, at least around here, if you can find one of the these guns at all in the used gun rack it is going to cost you an arm and a leg. I always wanted one of the newer models in .30-30 Win. over a 12 ga. shotgun barrel. They had screw-in choke tubes too. I figured it would be the ideal deer gun for around here in the thick woods and with some of our counties being buckshot only. If during the day you moved from a rifle county to a buckshot county you could still hunt with the same gun. Count on me for having 20-20 hindsight.
Regarding the m24 being an ideal survival gun, I agree totally. With my gun - the .22LR over 20 ga. shotgun - I could effectively hunt virtually everything we have here in Virginia and would not really be all that handicapped. Granted, it might not be ideal for specific tasks, but it would still work. Slugs or 3" buckshot for big game, fine shot for winged game and turkey - also squirrel & rabbits- and .22 LR for small furred game.
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Post by jmarriott on Jun 11, 2009 11:26:46 GMT -5
At each family gathering I bring over a few guns hoping the something spark's the trader in my cousin with the camper version. So far he only likes my glock 45 enough to trade up if I offered it. I have 350 in the glock and it is a prefect glock with shoulder holster and 3 clips. Jay my cousin and I are the only ones who have ever shot it.
The camper is not as pretty as the deluxe version without the walnut trimming and shinny barrel but I know they command a premium also so I would trade up even for the camper.
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