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Post by twomoons on May 28, 2009 8:54:37 GMT -5
Yes Red different grades of steel have different corrosive properties. If you had a polished stainless M/L you could probably put it away for a year before it showed and corrosion. But the original trapdoor was Seimens grade steel about like 12L grade that was used in the 1970 for M/L barrels as it was so machinable. Those will corrode quickly. What the fellow reported was that after 7 days the pathces came out red and after scrubbing small pits or flecking were visible. If you have a mirror bore and this happens you say OH S$#t and cry. When I test powders for corosive effect i clean a green mountain gun barrel and burn a sample on the barrel and put it either on the bench or in a humidity cabinet and watch what happens. The biggest factor here is humidity, put a barrel in a dry place and you may not see anything for a week and if the temp and humidity change it goes south overnight. I had a fellow who didn't clean his gun for 4 days and it was completelyy ruined, he set it behind the dryer in the basement!
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Post by dovehunter on May 28, 2009 9:26:20 GMT -5
Moons: Sorry to have taken offense. I hopefully wasn't intending to recommend or endorse pellets, substitute powder, etc. I probably won't even use any of this stuff myself. My intention, at least, was to point out that apparently a lot of new stuff for muzzleloading had come out since I last shot my MLs. I am glad to hear from you, where black powder or substitutes are concerned, that there really isn't a better mouse trap. It's surprising though that most everyone I talk to around here (that appear to know more about this stuff than me) seem to be really high on Triple-7 and the Shockey substitutes - even the gunshops and at least one gunsmith. Is it just that everyone is jumping on the bandwagon of new stuff? My only concerns with the powders was I just thought it might be nice to be able to get away from the hot, soapy water dousing regimen usually associated with blackpowder, Pyrodex, etc. in favor of something easier and less messy. Now I'll freely admit to being lazy when it comes to cleaning, but if ya gotta do it, ya gotta do it and I won't cut corners.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on May 28, 2009 18:48:12 GMT -5
My only concerns with the powders was I just thought it might be nice to be able to get away from the hot, soapy water dousing regimen usually associated with blackpowder, Pyrodex, etc. in favor of something easier and less messy. They say it cleans up with water. I personally don't trust it and continue to use hot soapy water with a final rinse. As to pitting, my rifle is full of pits all the way up and down it. I imagine it has minor flecking as well. I don't think there is major concern though. That's just what happens with a rifle that old especially when you wait a day too long. For that reason, some of the newer powders may help depending on individual's experiences with them.
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