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Post by twomoons on May 12, 2009 9:16:51 GMT -5
Boy oh boy, its rare you get to hunt fis and boat all in one trip but Sunnday...
We took the grandkids to Lake Yankton for an outing in the kayaks. I got a new fishing kayak and I needed to try it out so about noon we put in at the lake. The kids loved paddling around and getting close to the wild life and as i am watching them they start holllering, "look look". Well we started fishing, for ... fising gear. All the branches out of reach of the shore were decorated with fishing lures. We picked up a small box full of bobbers, lures and plastic worm rigs.
Then as I was plucking a brand new Rattle Trap lure from the bushes I look up to the bank and the HUNT is on. I grabed my daughter and whispered to her... ROOMS! She then gets out of the kayak and starts walking the bank picking morel mushrooms. We got a grocery sack full of rooms right under the noses of about 50 fishermen! By the time a couple of fishermen caught on to what we were doing we picked the bank clean. We came home with a sack of rooms, a sack of fishing gear and some tired and happy kids, it don't get no better than that!
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Post by Jack on May 12, 2009 10:30:12 GMT -5
Sounds like a great time, Twomoons! I used to walk the shores of a reservoir that got drawn down every fall. Picked lots of lures, hooks, etc, off stumps and rocks.  |
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Post by jimiowa on May 12, 2009 22:07:42 GMT -5
Don't get much better than that!!
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Post by jmarriott on May 13, 2009 8:15:39 GMT -5
I got a new fishing kayak and I needed to try it out so about noon we put in at the lake. I went with a very small canoe. It's a bell Adirondack. You have to set down in it on the deck instead of a cane seat or on your knees. More of a totally open kayak than a canoe. I can troll with a rod on each side while paddling and still have a rod to cast if I see a fish. I have a portable fish finder a nice comfortable vest. I was really into canoes for a while and had several. The ones that stayed were the Scanoe with a trolling motor, a old town 2 person river canoe, an alum 16 foot and the Bell. Can you stand up on the fishing kayak or is it a sit down only. The scanoe is a stand up stable boat and a good boat to do some casting out of. On my old canoe trailer. (I have a new project canoe trailer on the way. ) I had a bumper sticker that said "Paddle faster I hear banjo music. " Great when you can get a reference to DELIVERANCE in a post. |
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Post by twomoons on May 13, 2009 8:23:23 GMT -5
My wife had that inscribed on a T shirt for me. The Kayak is not made as a stand up as the cocpit is a little small. I got the sit inside as here a sot would be too wet and cold most of the year. I put on the spray skirt in cold weather and use it for duck hunting too. I have two canoes now and have used them for years. I prefer the Coleman on the river as they are bullet proof and just bounce off rocks, snags and such, even big trees... ask Bill! The Kayak has to rod holders and hatches front and rear and bungie cord front and rear along with paddle keepers. I wish i could post some photo's but if you google Trophy 144 you will see it. Here you go twomoons, I posted you a picture from the internet...  |
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Post by jimiowa on May 13, 2009 9:48:22 GMT -5
I gave my 15 Ft Coleman Canoe to my son Bailey, with the provision that I could use it if I wanted to. My problem was that when I wanted to use it I was usually by myself. And at 170 lbs and a Desk Jockey, It was too heavy and awkward to handle getting it on and off the car by myself. That's not an issue for my 230 lb son who wrestles with 200lb Hogs all day??
I only live about a mile from the South Skunk River (which can run from 18ft deep in Spring to average depth of 18"(outstanding Channel Cat Fishing) in late summer and would like to have a small canoe or Kayak that a decrepid old man could manage.
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Post by jmarriott on May 13, 2009 11:29:13 GMT -5
Can you lift a 24 pound 12 foot canoe. If you are solo nothing like a solo canoe compaired to using a two person canoe with one person on board. You have to wet launch these also as trying to launch from a dock will make you end up in the water. It appear Bell no longer makes my canoe. here seems to be one about like mine. Mine is 10 foot this one is 12 foot and much wider than mine. www.bellcanoe.com/products/default.asp?page=product&id=599&catid=195They can do rivers rapids but mild streams/rivers and small lakes are where they shine. They do blow across the lake real fast. I use a kayak paddle. Not a canoe paddle. Yakama is the rack maker i use and they have roller back racks that help one person roll the canoe off the car top. I perefer to use a old small boat trailer and keep it off the car top. |
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Post by jimiowa on May 13, 2009 12:22:56 GMT -5
Yeah that's what I need exactly! There is not a dock or ramp for 20 miles in either direction on the river so it's carry it over the bank to launch. The Coleman was a nice canoe and very stable even in a lake, had enough keel that it did not blow all over and tracked well, but weights close to 75 lbs so was very awkward for one man to handle on land. Fishing the river is hole jumping, you have to run up to a hole work it out and move on to the next.
There is also a lot of public hunting along the river(Federal Flood Management)(Aprox 3000 acres within 5 miles of my house) and best access would be by canoe. or you have to walk 1/2-3/4 mile off the road.
One Section is 1 mile wide and 4 miles long, the other is 3/4 miles wide and 3 miles long, bordered by I80 to the north and the River to the south.
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Post by jmarriott on May 13, 2009 14:59:44 GMT -5
They are not cheap canoes. kinda middle/ top of the line. You can get it in kevlar and trim it out with wood if you like. I floated in about 15 single man canoes and kayak's and chose the bell because of the low seating and center of gravity. I did not like the kneeling canoes even though they are better for racing and rapids.
The hunting with a canoe is one of my favorites. I used to do early turkey hunts on float trips/camps in southren Indiana, We could only hunt till noon back then and would fish the afternoons out at the river. We could get in and out of the hoosier national and other than at the launch and retrieve not see a single person in the woods. I love to do early tree rats out of a canoe also. Legal in Indiana as long as the only motor is a paddle. That is where the model 60 marlin tied to the boat is nice and a fishing pole to confuse the tree rats. Gun season for deer is to cold to float in my canoe. bow season is ok but I could not shoot out of the canoe in mine. At the swamp they have a 12 foot john boat we use to access the island stand. That's a great place after opening weekend. You normallly have to use the boat to access as the water may be 2 feet deep but the mud is 4 feet thick.
Open canoes do not have access compartments so if you put in the the boat you better tie it off or leave it at home. There is always the chance of tipping over the boat and there goes the stuff down the river to the bottom. We would often pack in stuff on a early float scouting session like canned goods and a tarp or two. Then start out early the Day before season and get a camp setup and do some scouting. Then just hunt, break camp and float back out to nasty car we would have stashed at the pullout.
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Post by jimh on May 13, 2009 15:55:30 GMT -5
dag gummit all this talk has me regretting letting go of my Old Town Tripper. but it was not kevlar and is on the tad heavy side but indestructable. i never got into the kayaks but have always wanted to.
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Post by klsm54 on May 13, 2009 16:57:16 GMT -5
Yeah that's what I need exactly! There is not a dock or ramp for 20 miles in either direction on the river so it's carry it over the bank to launch. The Coleman was a nice canoe and very stable even in a lake, had enough keel that it did not blow all over and tracked well, but weights close to 75 lbs so was very awkward for one man to handle on land. Fishing the river is hole jumping, you have to run up to a hole work it out and move on to the next. There is also a lot of public hunting along the river(Federal Flood Management)(Aprox 3000 acres within 5 miles of my house) and best access would be by canoe. or you have to walk 1/2-3/4 mile off the road. One Section is 1 mile wide and 4 miles long, the other is 3/4 miles wide and 3 miles long, bordered by I80 to the north and the River to the south. Come on Jim, you're a "do it yourself" sort of guy...  ;D Build your own, something you can be proud of...  Look at all these plans ..... Canoe Plans LinkOne time, on a trip to the Adirondack Museum in Blue Mountain Lake, I bought a blueprint of Rushton's "Sairy Gamp" a 9 foot, 10.5 lb., canoe he built for "Nessmuk", George Washington Sears. I thought it would be a neat project to try and duplicate Rushton's work, or at least come close. But, with a little more research I found that Nessmuk was a wirey 5'3" and barely 100 pounds. I doubted my 6'4" 250 lb. butt would fare to well in the Sairy Gamp...  But I still think it would be a good project. The first two in the plan list are a 12 footer that should weigh in at 35 lbs, and a 40 lb. 14 footer. Either one should be fairly easy to manhandle around, although I'm sure the 12 footer would be a lot easier for a lone man. Most of my canoeing took place in a 17 foot Grumman that we about wore the bottom off. A buddy also had a 15 foot fiberglass canoe that weighed probably 20 lbs more than my Grumman, never did like that thing. It would be nice to have a canoe made of wood. Sort of like fishing with a bamboo fly rod... |
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Post by jimiowa on May 13, 2009 19:03:04 GMT -5
Scott your right, it has been on my mind to build one for many years. Just have not got a Round Tuit yet.
There's not anything man made as pretty, earthy and graceful as a cedar strip canoe. But might be a mite heavy?
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Post by jimh on May 13, 2009 19:46:45 GMT -5
  sure are pretty |
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Post by klsm54 on May 13, 2009 21:15:53 GMT -5
Scott your right, it has been on my mind to build one for many years. Just have not got a Round Tuit yet. There's not anything man made as pretty, earthy and graceful as a cedar strip canoe. But might be a mite heavy? 35 lbs? That doesn't seem to heavy. Of course synthetic would be lighter, but......it just ain't wood... |
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Post by Jack on May 13, 2009 23:03:47 GMT -5
If you've read any of Nessmuk's writings, he mentions that, during black fly season in the Adirondacks, he used to sleep in the Sairy Gamp out in the middle of a lake.
Having seen the Sairy Gamp- it's still in the Adirondack Museum- I don't believe I'd try that!
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;D Build your own, something you can be proud of... 
