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Post by Purebred Redneck on Apr 22, 2009 0:22:02 GMT -5
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Post by Jack on Apr 22, 2009 7:48:33 GMT -5
That rifle has features common to inlines, except it isn't technically an inline.
So, does that make it an outline?
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Post by bounce on Apr 22, 2009 8:38:15 GMT -5
As Two Moons said by almeans bring it to our spring shoot, as we need novity targets. And that one would make a nice one. 1pt for the composit stock,3 pts for the Fiber optics sights, 2pts for the trigger, 1-1/2 pts for trigger guard, 1-1/2 pts for the hammer, 5 pts for 209 nipple job. The winner gets the steel for re forging!!
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Post by twomoons on Apr 22, 2009 10:41:49 GMT -5
I am working on the next big thing in muzzleloaders. Ther IS no stock, lock or barrel. The scope is incorporated into a game camera and the gun? s fired electronicly by wire when ever the attached computer senses a 4 point or larger buck in the view finder. The mount is a 30 second sweep camera mount that rotates 180 degrees with 60 degrees of elevation and depression. The gun barrel is a 50 caliber muzzle loaded sabot barrel firing a 44 caliiber POISENED projectile. Once the unit is propperly mounted in your hunting area you turn it on... when the phoone rings at home you get a recorded message... Gun # 18573 at Location # 89.7 south 29.5 East has killed a?? Point buck. You drive out gut your deer, OR call the locker plant and have them pick up your trophy.
With a heavy barrel and smokelespowder I expect a maximum range of 1 1/2 miles and with the poisoned bullet no game will EVER be lost. Now you can hunt 24-7 and NEVER mis a trophy.
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Post by Jack on Apr 22, 2009 10:44:32 GMT -5
;D ;D
Yer kinda scaring me here, Twomoons. I expect it won't be long before some goofy B*****d on the TV outdoor shows will be telling us just how great that gun you've designed is!
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Post by jabba on Apr 22, 2009 13:45:07 GMT -5
c'mon.
Ya'll REALLY think I am an evil SOB because I shoot a Knight Rifle?
Isn't there bigger enemies out there? Like Al-Quaida or the Liberals or SOMETHING?
Jabba
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Post by jimiowa on Apr 22, 2009 18:55:57 GMT -5
No Jabba, I don't! My son shoots a Ruger 77/50. Just because it;s not for me does not mean it's not ok for You. Just hope you don't mind if we take a jab once in a while?  I know Bailey braces himself, knowing it's coming. |
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Post by bounce on Apr 22, 2009 20:13:56 GMT -5
I heard a rummer that T/M's is not going to make the shoot and we will have no snow this year, guess he is to busy with that new smoke pole camera?
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Post by deputydon on Apr 22, 2009 21:10:15 GMT -5
c'mon. Ya'll REALLY think I am an evil SOB because I shoot a Knight Rifle? Isn't there bigger enemies out there? Like Al-Quaida or the Liberals or SOMETHING? Jabba ;D Everybody likes to poke a "Teddy Bear" once in awhile....... ;D I too have toned down somewhat............  |
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Post by Squealy on Apr 23, 2009 12:43:31 GMT -5
c'mon. Ya'll REALLY think I am an evil SOB because I shoot a Knight Rifle? Jabba He'll really hate ME then, with my SMOKELESS M/L/.... |
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Apr 23, 2009 20:38:37 GMT -5
c'mon. Ya'll REALLY think I am an evil SOB because I shoot a Knight Rifle? Jabba He'll really hate ME then, with my SMOKELESS M/L/.... Yeah and it didn't go boom either last year ;D |
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Post by dovehunter on Apr 26, 2009 7:22:14 GMT -5
Red: Have I missed something here? It appears to me that the solution here is a simple one - if you don't like it, don't buy it. |
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Apr 26, 2009 12:46:31 GMT -5
It goes back to the traditional vs inline arguement.
We've obvsouisly lost that war, but many traditional caplock and flintlock shooters still maintain that in the spirit of what the muzzleloader big game seasons were intended to be that inlines not be allowed.
To me, this even goes far beyond the original arguement. This is just adding insult to injury making this the last piece of the puzzle. This gun here (in cap and flint) puts the nail in the coffin and cheats whatever states had been holding out to the bitter end.
In terms of the impact, this gun will never do the devisation the original Knight did. But from a symbolic stance, this gun is single handedly the biggest kick in the balls to the traditional community.
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Post by klsm54 on Apr 26, 2009 14:20:02 GMT -5
This gun does nothing to help a hunter kill a deer. It is just a comical version of a traditional muzzleloader...  I can't see the attraction, but I'm not into crappy camo stocks and shiny stainless barrels. I know this. In Pennsylvania, where we still have a Flintlock only season, they have been selling the Flintlock version of this gun by the rail car loads for the last 7 or 8 years. .... I guess the new breed of hunter likes guns that look like they came from a cartoon strip. Hey, how about a "Tactical" flintlock? All black, thumbhole stock, Picatinny rail on the barrel, on board CO2 system to act as a gas powered ramrod......They'd sell 'em like hot cakes.... |
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Apr 26, 2009 23:27:58 GMT -5
I know this. In Pennsylvania, where we still have a Flintlock only season, they have been selling the Flintlock version of this gun by the rail car loads for the last 7 or 8 years. .... It started out that one company began selling a short barreled gun that was lighter than a full 30-35" barrel. Then they realized they can sell more sidelocks if they were drilled and tapped from the factory. Then came nickel finish and black stock on the sidelock. Now the final blow is this "comical version" of a traditional gun. What's the state going to do, change the regulations making thousands of rifles illegal to hunt with? They can't do that...they're not going to do that. It's like bringing a bag of Oreos to a pot luck dinner. Dressing up as yourself for Halloween. Being "that guy" at the baseball game that everyone wants to punch. There's a right way of doing things and a wrong way of doing things
If someone wasn't into muzzleloaders until 10 years (or less) ago, I guess I can't fault them for buying an inline. It's all they've known; it's all that's been talked about.
But for someone who hunted with muzzleloaders prior to the change, I (and others) have seen the complete history of them.
Inlines have really hurt the history of the United States that people were still holding on to.
Inlines have proven again that big business and the easy way out overrides what "is the right thing to do".
I'll open up a can of worms again.
We're now going to see this with assult weapons.
Unfortunatly they are the future of big game hunting.
There's going to be the day (and most of you will still be around to see it because it's just around the corner) that you'll be telling your grandkids and great grandkids about how people used to deer hunt with a model 94 or a 336 or even a model 70/700.
That day is comming fast; and until that day comes and you realize how rifle hunting has been ruined, you won't know how we feel about traditional muzzleloaders. |
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