Powerbelts

[kragman71]

Hello
The Sporting Goods Store where I bought my new MZL is staffed by some pretty knowledgable folks.
The Salesman remarked that Powerbelts were a big seller,and that he,himself used them.I bought a pack of 15,just for hunting whitetails.
On a different website I noticed that they ar considered too easy to expand.A shoulder shot will create much bloodshed,but no venison. Concensus semed to be that they areonly for broadside lung shots.
I will appreciate any experiences that you care to share with me.
Thanks
Frank

[Purebred Redneck]

My understanding is that some of their products will not get the penetration you might need. Seems as if many people love the bullets. There are however enough people with concerns; and that concerns me enough not to buy them.

The XTP bullets --- they are excellent
Both the 240gr and 300gr shot good 4-5" groups at 100 (iron sight 1:48 twist) but the groups were about 5" left. I didn't want to move my sights because other bullets would already shoot to the point of aim.
It is an excellent product though as my brother and dad have had great success.
Talk about a pain in the butt to load though.

If you're shooting 50 yards and under, the Hornady great plains conical (hollow point, hollow base, 385gr) is a heck of a round on deer. I can vouch for that. Groups in my gun at least shot about 1-2" at 50 yards and couldn't hit paper at 75 yards. It was all over the place.
Your results might vary.

Personally, I'd go with the 300gr xtp and never look back.

Look at cabelas and read some of the reviews of all the products.

Remember, groups with a muzzleloader is like a shotgun.
If you have a scope and can get 3", you should be thrilled.
There's exceptions to the rule, but don't let the minority fool you.

[kragman71]

Thanks,Red
That was the kind of answer that I wanted.
I've gone to cast bullets for hunting exclusively in my 30/40 and 30/30 cartridge guns.I'll definitly try those Great Plains bullets if I can find them.
Frank

[Jack]

Frank, you might want to cast your own bullets, too, if you have some pure lead.
Lee makes a couple of molds, for REAL bullets and Minie balls, as well as round balls. I believe some other companies make molds, too.
The molds aren't for saboted projectiles, though.

[Purebred Redneck]

You shouldn't have a problem finding the hornady great plains.

For gods sake though, don't buy the buffalo brand conicals.
POS

[klsm54]

I don't have a lot of experience with any conicals. But I have used the Hornady Great Plains bullet in a .54, and they really flatten a deer...... If it were possible to blow 'em over a fence, which it's not, those Great Plains bullets could do it.... ;D

[Jack]

Klsm, the home cast Minie balls from the Lee mold are like that, too. In a .50, they weigh about 360, and have a nice wide flat on the nose.

[kragman71]

Thanks,Folks
I looked at the bullets that I had bought years ago,and they included 240 grainGreat Plains and 300 grainTC Shockwavebullets.
Jack,I agree with you,but,due to a medical setback,I had to scale bback my shooting and give up altogether,my bullet casting.
The reason I am going to use the MZL is that it is allowable in an area that is easier to hunt then the mountains that have been my favorite place.
The manual that came with my new inline,noted that a fiber wad was necessary with a lead conical. Do all of you use a wad.I wonder if a wax wad would be just as good.
Frank

[deputydon]

klsm54 said:

I don't have a lot of experience with any conicals. But I have used the Hornady Great Plains bullet in a .54, and they really flatten a deer...... If it were possible to blow 'em over a fence, which it's not, those Great Plains bullets could do it.... ;D

WHAT Are you saying you can't blow a deer over a fence ? I thought we hashed this out and everyone was in agreement on that issue.... Oh boy here we go again!!!!

[Jack]

D-D, you troublemaker!
;D ;D ;D ;D

[deputydon]

jack said:

D-D, you troublemaker!
;D ;D ;D ;D

???Who me ?

[Jack]

;D ;D ;D

[klsm54]

I gave in DD, I didn't want twomoons mad at me..... ;D

[kragman71]

Hello,again
Ihave a quantity of 45/70 cast bullets on hand;320 gran,390 grain 405 grain nd even 550 grain.These fit nicely into the sabot of the TC Shockwave bullets.Has anyone tried shooting these in a 50 cal MZL?
If I hear no negative response,I'll give it a try.
Frank

[Purebred Redneck]

I know of no reason why you "need" to put a wad with a conical They might be talking about homemade cast bullets.
All of the commercial conicals have some type of wax on them.
Totally new to me

As far as the 45/70 bullets. What actual caliber are they???
I believe most 50cal shoots 44cal bullets. But I guess the larger caliber should fit in the sabots alright.
The only problem I see is that you might have a hard time getting the sabot down the barrel b/c sabots are traditionally hard to get down anyway. I've actually seen people use a hammer to hit their ramrod to get the round down That might be a public range thing though ;D
If it loads ok, I don't see a problem. You might need to buy thinner sabots though.
I'd wait and see if someone else comments on this