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Post by dakota on Dec 10, 2006 22:13:51 GMT -5
Davide Pedersoli Kodiak Double Percussion Rifle
and CVA Kodiak Double Rifle
Are these the only double percussion rifles commonly found on the market?
It looks like 50 is the caliber of choice, is that correct?
Anyone know about these double rifles? Are they legal for primitive unts?
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Post by Bill on Dec 10, 2006 23:28:00 GMT -5
I have a friend that has one in .72 cal and it shoots a round ball very nicly Dakota. Last season if his nipple hadn't of plugged up and misfired I bet he could of knocked over a second deer for doubles. ;D I had more fun sitting and watching him than shooting myself and thats saying a lot.   |
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Post by jimiowa on Dec 10, 2006 23:34:51 GMT -5
Doubles have always held a ficination for me.
It would certainly be a facinating a challenging project to build one and get the barrels regulated to hit same point of aim.
A much easier project might be to take an old shotgun,there are many cheap dpubles out there. and install a rifled sleeve with breech plugs?
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Post by bounce on Dec 11, 2006 0:41:37 GMT -5
Find your self a Hudson Bay dubble trade rifle in .58 - 24 gage, I have read the canada Indans were still useing them just a few years ago yet. I have one in T/M's shop that shot both ball & shot great!! Took it in to make it even better...... now was that 3 or 4 years ago?
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Post by dakota on Dec 11, 2006 8:56:03 GMT -5
I have not heard good things about CVAs. Most of the used ones I have found are CVAs and all so far have been in 50 caliber.
I would prefer 54 as minimum 58 would be better, as would the 72s. I would probably shot round ball only. However, that Hudson bay double trade rifle you are talking about Bounce. Was that rifled? What is the blue book on something like that?
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Post by bounce on Dec 11, 2006 9:50:37 GMT -5
No it is smooth bore but last I tried shot .58 round balls well enough for deer hunting, I have no blue book for stuff as this Dakota But I think you can Order one? Think that most would be missidentified as shotguns when looking for one. Mine is like the one at the museam of the fur trade owed by Kit Carson Except his had English barrels & mine are belgum other wise Identical
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Post by dakota on Dec 11, 2006 10:15:24 GMT -5
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Post by bounce on Dec 11, 2006 12:22:09 GMT -5
Close yes, Mine is plainer & ealyer style stock & locks. But this one has the Engish barrels that Kit C gun had. Can't speak for all but mine will shot .58 ball usualy in 2" to 3" at 50 yds well. One is right on the other allways has a 8" lead to the left but allways the same for both.
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Post by twomoons on Dec 11, 2006 15:25:14 GMT -5
CVA and Pedersoli made no attempt to really regulate the barrels. They just put on two rear sight blades and let it go at that. That is why the M/L sold for about 1/2 the cost of the breech loaders. The B/L were regulated. The regulation isn't and big trick, but you have to have the fixtures and need to shoot the gun while adjusting. Usually a gun is regulated for ONE load and you are very lucky if another load will shoot the same. Yes Bounce I still need to ream those barrels and I do have the reamer head. As soon as i have a spare 3 days to make up the shanks and handles i will get right on it.
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Post by bounce on Dec 11, 2006 17:27:16 GMT -5
Smiles... This Site is a great needinling tool.....LOL
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Post by Bill on Dec 11, 2006 21:47:16 GMT -5
Its probably sitting right next to the 3 4 or 5 or  Hell I forgot how many guns I have sitting there myself that I didn't have the time to mess with.  You know its getting bad when you can remember how many you have left there or what they were. Guess if I forget their his. ;D |
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Dec 12, 2006 23:02:01 GMT -5
What's the best way to sightin a double barrel?
1. Sight in one barrel dead on and shoot it first --- 2nd barrel for a backup shot
ex. barrel #1 dead on and barrel #2 four inches off
2. Sight the gun in where both barrels are shooting the same distance from point of aim
ex. barrel #1 and #2 shoot two inches off
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Post by klsm54 on Dec 12, 2006 23:17:33 GMT -5
Double rifles are not made for long range shootin'. They are "regulated", at least the quality ones are, so that both barrels shoot to the same point of aim at a certain distance, usually 50 or 100 yards.
They are made sort of cross-eyed. the point of impact, for each barrel gets closer until the regulated distance, then the lines of each bore cross and the impact starts to widen again. In theory, if the lines of the 2 bores cross at 100 yards, at 200 yards they would then be back as far apart as where they started. And that is plenty accurate for the shooting they are designed for.
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Hell I forgot how many guns I have sitting there myself that I didn't have the time to mess with. 
