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Post by Bill on Sept 30, 2006 7:41:38 GMT -5
I found this on another site. Its a letter from Austin and Halleck anouning their demise.
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Post by deputydon on Sept 30, 2006 8:02:06 GMT -5
Another one going under???
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 30, 2006 13:22:44 GMT -5
I looked at a Austin Halleck a few months ago and I will say it is a great bolt action style gun !!! I'm sure the Hawken is of equal quality.
But the days of bolt action muzzleloaders and side locks are OVER in the near future !!! A company that depended on those types of sales were doomed to fail. If they could of got their leveraction on the market a few years ago instead of after everyone else did, it might be very different.
Most Inline hunters don't care about things of beauty. They don't care about shooting much and don't care about tradition - they don't even know how the thing works. All they care about is getting the cheapest watertight gun they can so they get a couple more weekends of hunting.
Muzzleloader actions come and go. New models of bolt actions are rare now. We're in the height of ejection-hinged single shots. We can already see that lever actions are going to be the next big thing within 5 years or so. I think we're going to see bolt actions reign again once and if the manufacturers can figure out an easier way to clean gun and also keep the bolt more water tight.
Now Bill, I was told by some guy at a shooting range that Austin made Cabelas muzzleloaders. Is this true??? He may got wrong info or maybe just making it up...
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 30, 2006 13:47:00 GMT -5
How close is the Austin Halleck bolt action to the Weatherby or Howa??? Could it be possible that the company is for sale and one of these might consider picking up the rights to the muzzleloaders??? Weatherby's been trying awefull hard lately to market their guns to normal working class people yet keeping quality. Austin Halleck prices are about the same as TC and knight - but these companies had retail exposure. Could a big company sell these muzzleloaders and make a profit???
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Post by Bill on Sept 30, 2006 21:50:15 GMT -5
Nope no connection between Cabela's and Austin and Halleck Red. The guy is either making it up or dreaming. As far as the rest of it goes, you read it. Austin and Halleck has no employee's anymore.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 30, 2006 23:00:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I had to go to their website to believe it myself.
I wonder what happened?
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Post by klsm54 on Sept 30, 2006 23:15:29 GMT -5
Geez! And I just hunted up their Website to put on our new links forum...
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Post by twomoons on Oct 2, 2006 14:22:27 GMT -5
This is an outfit that made a great loking poor handling rifle in the traditional line. The gun was offered in 50 or 54 and looked good, but they took the stock style from a squirrel rifle and tried to adapt it to big game. The roman nosed stock kicked like a mule and was too short to boot. As a consequence most of the guns were bought by newbies and quickly offered for sale. The inlines were ok, but overpriced. I am astounded that so many folks would spen so much money on an inline when the whole idea of an inline is how cheap it can be made. Hand labor on these is zip. No inline, even with the best wood stock should sell for more than $200 tops.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Oct 2, 2006 19:09:05 GMT -5
I don't know if I'd go that far b/c good wood stocks can retail for 200 alone. But I agree otherwise - inlines like the omega, knight, encore, etc are way overpriced for me.
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Post by twomoons on Oct 10, 2006 10:47:39 GMT -5
Yes a pre-inlet wood stock for some rifles can go that high, but for a 12 stock with probably the simplist inletting even a premium stock shouldn't run more than 100 bucks. In actual production the rest of the gun is $29.00 for a trigger 68 bucks for a barrel and maybe 15 bucks for the rest of the parts. That's why CVA can sell these suckers for $100 and still make a profit, no hand labor and a spanish imbecile can screw one together and it will still work.
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