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Post by sebastian on Mar 5, 2007 13:00:42 GMT -5
Sounds like a serious competition there! Red has advantage on his bull barrel (a bit), but his trigger seems horrible...perhaps his scope, too?? lol. JimH has advantage on his trigger, but it sounds that JimH a little bit worry with Red's barrel, lol.
"Each gun gets 4 groups of 5 shots"......my question is, why you get only the average of 2 best groups instead of 4 groups?...this would only adds "luck factor", imo. You know that wind changes everytime, etc etc.
Tip: If you don't have specialty windflags, try to use some ribbons, or so (rigid will be better) & tie them on some simple poles, between you & the targets....shoot when/while the ribbons are in the same direction & angle (you must remember how the windflags look like when you shoot a round or the first round). Shoot rounds as fast as you can when the "windflags" says "go"...or "yes, it's the time now".
Other tips: check your rest & bag, push your buttstock on the rear bag & move your rifle back & forth for some time to make the set up more settle.... Add some talcum/baby powder on the bags (or some slick papers)....Remove the sling nuts...Don't make too much movements while operating the bolt....always keep square between your buttstock & shoulder....do not hold the rifle/the grip of the stock tight...always check the parallax thing on your scope....always see & remember the conditions, wind changes etc...
Good luck...seb. ;D
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Post by bounce on Mar 5, 2007 16:54:46 GMT -5
Little matches like this are fun, just wish I could have droped in on them with a Norinco .22 all $70 dollars worth and jar full of CCI green Tag
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Post by jimh on Mar 5, 2007 18:44:14 GMT -5
bounce i'm gonna get out and try some of that green tag before the next ruger/marlin battle of the rimfires. hopefuly the next shootout will be on a bluebird day and we can realy see what these rifles are doing. the post after that day should bring some entertaining reading to this thread to say the least.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 5, 2007 23:22:09 GMT -5
Tip: If you don't have specialty windflags, try to use some ribbons, or so (rigid will be better) & tie them on some simple poles, between you & the targets....shoot when/while the ribbons are in the same direction & angle (you must remember how the windflags look like when you shoot a round or the first round). Shoot rounds as fast as you can when the "windflags" says "go"...or "yes, it's the time now". I got something better than windflags. Stick your finger in your mouth and point it up in the air !!!
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Post by jimh on Mar 10, 2007 8:14:40 GMT -5
well Red i'm gonna try to get out tomorrow and shoot that sucker at 100 yrds. i am getting swamped both here at home and at work so if i don't get it out soon it may be a while before i have time. i have a ton of home projects i need to get onto this year and to be frank it is going to tie up a ton of my outdoors time. hey REd how good are you with a hammer and saw? ;D
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 10, 2007 15:16:27 GMT -5
I'd be more than glad to help if it wasn't for me moving houses again here in the next month. Sucks to be poor (actually it sucks to be a cheap ******) ;D Move in with an old college roommate, he finds a good job Move in with another old college friend, he moves to canada Move in with a old high school friend, he gets married (I tried to talk him out of that one). Come on, who doesn't want to stay single and work a dead-end job for the rest of their life? So we'll try it again for another year And then that's going to be right in the middle of turkey season so I'm sure my week vacation is going to get screwed up there. Hopefully it pours down rain that whole week so I don't get too mad about not going hunting on a nice 70 degree sunny week I am handy with a hammer and saw because I'm going to make my own kitchen table, end table, and computer desk. Actually, it's pretty easy. It involves a 12 pack of beer and three trips at 2am to a construction site that has 3 cable spools sitting around itching to be stolen
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Post by jimh on Mar 10, 2007 15:23:37 GMT -5
Red i "Borrowed" some stuff from a construction site down in Cape one time to help out my dorm room and dang if it didn't get me a personal invite to meet the judge of Cape
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 10, 2007 21:11:19 GMT -5
The closest I came to court was the time I threw up on the Cape courthouse steps after the bars let out
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 11, 2007 12:26:37 GMT -5
You want to know something funny Jim? Actually, it's kinda sad. I can lift my model 60 by the trigger and it won't go off A grocery bag, fishing line, and soda cans says the trigger pull is between 6.75 to 7.25 pounds In comparison, my bolt 22 that you pulled weighted in at 4.5 to 5 pounds. I'm going to go for a run outside now so I'm going to town to see if I can find a spring for the bolt's trigger. I tried the "ballpoint spring trick" a few years ago and it was not able to stay cocked. I'll let you know if I have any success. Unfortunatly, the model 60 isn't going to be so easy of a fix.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 11, 2007 17:58:47 GMT -5
Well I went to True Value and saw a spring very similar to the one from the factory. So 40 cents later I have a trigger that is a tad over 3 soda cans...ah...36oz. I've bolted it about 100 times with no de-cocking problems. Looks like 40 cents well spent if it wasn't for me going to kmart and going absolutly crazy on clearance fishing lures Nonetheless - I got a good trigger, about 15 packs of yum crawfish/lizards/creature baits, 4 bill dance fat free shads, a bunch of bluegill and catfish hooks, crappie tubes, 3 bass jigs, crankbait, spinnerbait, and a bunch of other junk for 60 dollars ;D
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Post by jimh on Mar 11, 2007 20:51:05 GMT -5
so red how many cans of soda (or pop for the rest of you) do you think minw would have took? i did get out for a quick shoot today but once again it was a tad breezy. i went out to 100 yrds on the .17 and shot a couple of decent groups and one real eye opener. i am booked solid for the next 4 weekends unless something changes so it wont be until april before we can hook back up for the show down.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 11, 2007 22:13:05 GMT -5
Well I still have to pull the trigger on mine. Yours is too light for me. I'm probably going to be busy now through the middle of june. Turkeys, bass, and squirrels are going to keep me pretty busy. I might find a weekend free though
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Post by twomoons on Mar 12, 2007 16:35:15 GMT -5
For pure target shooting I perfer a 2# trigger for Offhand and about 3# max from a bench. I use to shoot a 1.5 in my BSA Martini but that was a little light for me. I keep my Sharps set at 1.5 but for hunting I use the rifle unset at 4#. I would rather have a lower priced rifle with a good trigger than an expensive one with a lousy trigger, that is why I shy away from Rugers. But weight is only one factor and a 4 pound trigger crisp is better than 1 pound with creep and mush and a gritty trigger is just S%$t. Some of the best triggers on 22's were on average priced guns in the 40's.
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Post by jimh on Mar 12, 2007 20:48:26 GMT -5
twomoons, my triger is a soft 2lb. it has a bit of creep but not too bad. i would like to replace it with a better trigger one day (read crisper) but until then this will work. i remeber back a few years when i had my model 70 worked on by the smith and i mean to tell you that factory trigger was crisp with no creep and a nice 3lb pull. i guess i could get an overtravel screw put on the one i have and that would be ok too. my Ruger M77 mark II had it's trigger worked on by a smith and it is very crisp. i would like to measure that one as he told me it was 3lb but i'm thinking it might be a tad under that. the big differance is there is no creep on that one you start applying some pressure and all of a sudden BAM ! the lightest trigger i ever had was on my old winchester model 37 shotgun. it was set up for meat shoots and if you looked at it wrong it went off. if i had been carring that one when red and i went rabiit hunting i would have shot it both times i fell . (or was it three times??, damn ice!) i got rid of that gun when i got married. two bad decissions within a few weeks of one another.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Mar 13, 2007 20:55:22 GMT -5
I believe you only fell once with the shotgun. Fell twice with the rifle I was also a tiny little bit worried when I jumped that rabbit up inbetween us ;D
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