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Post by bounce on Jun 22, 2011 20:53:09 GMT -5
Looks as I may be bringing one home in the next few days. Don't know alot about them so if anyone has comments fill free. About all i can say for this one is for an old war gun it's realy nice looking and ammo is cheap.
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Post by Jack on Jun 22, 2011 21:52:30 GMT -5
I have fooled with a few 98K's. I think you'll find that they can be quite accurate, in spite of absolutely miserable sights.
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Post by deputydon on Jun 22, 2011 22:47:42 GMT -5
MITCH SHOT A 4x4 W/ ONE BORROWED FROM 2M'S DADMAYBE THE ONE YOU NOW OWN...
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Post by bounce on Jun 22, 2011 23:10:21 GMT -5
I guess I always got the impression many just dislike them for being on the wrong side of the war & killing are men. but also actualy a pretty darn decent gun ahside of the war thing. Never ben big on millitary guns but I had one, then bought 3 more so now this will make 5, hope he comes up with a bayonet as well for it as my other 4 all have them. It's starting to feel like a collection to me anyway.
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Post by Bill on Jun 23, 2011 7:03:05 GMT -5
Actually their a heck of a gun. Not much different than a .30-06 loading for the US military. In some ways it might be better. I use to shoot one and it was the first rifle I ever purchased myself. Bought a Bishop stock and put on it and had Simmons gun shop in Omaha drill and tap the action and put the stock on it. Owned it for years. I think its still around that country someplace. One of the neatest rifles I ever seen was one that the barrel was turned down to a very slim pencil barrel and shortened to 20"s and re-blued completely. It was re chambered to 8MM-06 and that was a cannon. The guy that had it built was taking it to Alaska to go bear hunting. Seems to me he did well with it.
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Post by deputydon on Jun 23, 2011 7:58:12 GMT -5
Actually their a heck of a gun. Not much different than a .30-06 loading for the US military. In some ways it might be better. I use to shoot one and it was the first rifle I ever purchased myself. Bought a Bishop stock and put on it and had Simmons gun shop in Omaha drill and tap the action and put the stock on it. Owned it for years. I think its still around that country someplace. One of the neatest rifles I ever seen was one that the barrel was turned down to a very slim pencil barrel and shortened to 20"s and re-blued completely. It was re chambered to 8MM-06 and that was a cannon. The guy that had it built was taking it to Alaska to go bear hunting. Seems to me he did well with it. Now there's a thought for a "Gunsmoke" project in the future
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Post by jmarriott on Jun 23, 2011 10:02:53 GMT -5
98K's sent the bolt action rifle to new hieghts. Now that was many years ago but we would not have had the win model 70 if not for the 98's bolt.
In the lastest blue book they seemed to have updated the military guns after many years and the prices even on some of the junkers has been increased.
Great find, A piece of history.
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Post by dovehunter on Jun 23, 2011 14:56:31 GMT -5
My favorite deer rifle is an extensively sporterized 8mm 98 Mauser. At the end of the day, I probably spent more fixing up this gun than it would have cost me to have a bought a brand new Win. model 70 or Rem. model 700 (I have really good hind sight). It's kind of nice though to be able to hunt with a rifle that is essentially unique. However, with all that being said, the gun is very accurate and dependable. My longest shot was at about 260 yds.
I think you will like it. Every one I've seen has shot well.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Jun 23, 2011 19:28:30 GMT -5
Do you know what model it is?
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Post by bounce on Jun 23, 2011 19:56:09 GMT -5
I'm thinking 98k but I know nothing about them and I don't have it home yet. I all ready have and earlyer style in 8mm that has or had the .318 bore but T/M's says it is stamped so I can shoot the same ammo in it I guess, I'm shure this new one will be the .323 bore. I as yet haven't got around to shooting any of my millitary rifles. Years ago I had a British 303 I shot a lot but the one I have now I haven't shot yet. allso have a russian 7.62x54R & a french one that shoot 8mm LEBEL & now the two German 8mm All seem to be in pretty nice condition or abouve what one offten sees. The french gun was never used just throwen down.
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Post by twomoons on Jul 12, 2011 21:48:35 GMT -5
I currently have as my rough duty rifle a 24/47 Yugo in 8mm mauser. It came in as a semi butchered do it your self project that I allowed the guy $75.00 on. I put it up for a long time and then one day I thought I would work it over. The stock when the grease and oil were removed was a buitiful piece of striped walnut so nice I coouldn't think of replacing it. The barrel was almost unfired so I dug in the junk drawer and ended up putting on a low safety and bending and rewelding the bolt. I put in a timmeny trigger set for 2 1/2 pounds and drilled and tapped it for Leupold mounts and fitted a Barska 2.5x 7 scope. I milled and checkered the front sight base and put in a gold bead and removed the military sight and put a folding blade in the rear. DD has seen the gun and the best part is that it ALWAYS shoots into an honest 1 1/2" at 100 yards and has done better on occasion. I shoot a 150 gr bullet at 2950 fps from the 24" barrel and I used it for depradation permits a couple years go and ended up with 5 deer for 5 shots the longest at 268 measured yards. The only thing I notice about the 8mm is that the bullets sem to be mae for less velocity than a 30-06 as they are really destructive. The old 8mm 170 loads from th factorys are slower but they will go end to end through about anything.
Bounces 8mm is a turk 1903 full military with about 90% original blue and a real nice stock. The bore is perfect and the stock has been carefully stripped and rubbed with tru oil and is a super nice looking military gun.
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Post by Jack on Jul 13, 2011 8:32:35 GMT -5
Twomoons, if you use bullets in the 170-180 grain range on deer, the heavier bullet is a bit less destructive, and penetrates well. I hunted deer for years with my father and some of his friends who brought 98k's back from WW2, and sporterized them to varying degrees. I loaded the ammo for those rifles - still do. I've loaded the Sierra, Hornady, and Speer bullets in the 170-175 weight, and they all worked fine on deer. I have not tried the Nosler 180 BT, but I'd like to. Each of those 170/175 grain bullets were loaded to about 2650 fps at the muzzle. Accurate Arms 2520 is my powder of choice. The factory 8mm loads that I've chronographed are doing about 2300 fps.
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Post by dovehunter on Jul 13, 2011 9:29:02 GMT -5
I started out using the Hornady 150 gr. spitzers. They shot well but I had too many jacket separations. The bullets would come all to pieces. I switched over to the Sierra 175 gr. spitzer and have been using it ever since. In my gun it shoots extremely well and the bullets hold together. I've taken deer out to a little over 200 yds. with it. IMR 4064 seems to be the best powder I've tried and I load it fairly hot, duplicating the European factory loads.
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Post by bounce on Jul 13, 2011 14:38:17 GMT -5
I went to feather hill for gas and the road was slick and a ton of traffic so I thought I would take the long safe way home that goes by the gun smoke store and maybe bring it home, However it was noon when I got their and gun smoke was out to lunch, so I just came home, should have fought the traffic in the mud I guess.
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Post by twomoons on Jul 13, 2011 21:29:03 GMT -5
For depradation shooting I don't really worry too much about meat loss. I shoot the hornady 150's because they shoot so well in my gun but I have used the old Hornady rn at about 2600 and they would be dandy for moose and bear for sure, they really go through a deer.
Bounce, so you don't know where to come for a free lunch??? Excuses, excuses !
Just to verify my brag last night I stopped at the range and fired 3 factory 170 gr loads from the 8mm. All three went into just 1 1/2" at 100 yards from a rest and as is typical for some rifles they were about 6" higher than the regular 150's the gun is sighted for. Now if this was a 270!!!
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