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Post by smj617 on Nov 27, 2009 21:59:37 GMT -5
I got to looking at a ballistics chart for the powerbelts and the 225gr has more kinetic energy at 100yrds than the 275gr with a 100gr charge. I think the 1st thing I will try is dropping down to the 225gr with the 100gr charge and see if the accuracy gets better. If that doesnt work then I will switch to the t/c maxi hunters.
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Post by jabba on Dec 21, 2009 10:55:24 GMT -5
I am NOT a fan of the light bullets. I am NOT a fan of pelletized powder. I think it puts the cart before the horse. Personally, I'd liik for the heaviest, solid bullet you can shoot. Look at www.prbullet.com. That's where I buy my big bullets. Then I'd shoot some sort of loose powder in 5 grain increments till I found a good one. Personally, I shoot a .54 Knight with a .50 cal flat nose, solid bullet in a .50/.54 sabot. It's a 450 grain bullet, and I shoot 70 grains of FFFG 777 powder. My gun will shoot a 3" group from 25 yards to 125 yards, with 4" additional drop to 150 yards. I'll take a 150 yeard shot, and have killed a deer at 140 before. I have never shot further than that, other than just trying to turn a deer... Which never works when you WANT it to... Good luck. Jabba
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Post by bounce on Dec 21, 2009 12:36:38 GMT -5
Jabba as you likely know other than .54 vs .45 your equal to a tipical 45-70 at the same yards. And nothing wrong with that. also like my 50-70 sharps. You could make 200 yd shots ok if you can just drop them in and further with the weight of your bullet. Big chunks of lead are dangerus tossed out a long ways.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Dec 21, 2009 19:58:55 GMT -5
Now when you shoot out to 150 yards, how does "knock down power" work compared to say a 25 yard or a 75 yard shot? About 75 yards is the farthest I've ever shot at a deer and I've never noticed any difference between 0-75. But here again, we're doubling the distance and losing considerable velocity.
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Post by deputydon on Dec 21, 2009 22:02:54 GMT -5
I can tell you from the skidmarks in the snow, that @ twenty yards or so a .62 calber roundball will knock a buck running full blast right off his feet.
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Post by bounce on Dec 22, 2009 0:25:56 GMT -5
To bad he wasent runing beside a fence, or is that how hes scrached from stem to stern?
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Post by jimiowa on Dec 22, 2009 9:11:35 GMT -5
The kind of weight Jabba is talking about was more than enough for the Market Buffalo Hunters at ranges we might consider insane. I once read that the 40-70 was the perfect Buffalo round. The Knockdown power is there our perspective is skewed by modern ballistics and paper shooting. If they are enough for buffalo, they should pound a Missouri Deer like a sledgehammer.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Dec 22, 2009 11:15:41 GMT -5
I'm going to get slammed for this But the buffalo hunters didn't care how ethical their shots were. The idea is to hit as many as you can and find however many you can. The idea of american hunters bloodtrailing game for hours on end is a very modern thing. I bet if everyone here thinks back about their fathers or grandfathers, they took the approach that if you didn't see the animal fall then you missed it. No one blood trailed deer, everyone would think you're crazy. Go out and shoot another one.
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Post by bounce on Dec 22, 2009 12:00:26 GMT -5
I remeber my old anseters has haveing way more ethics than most today Red included. Bison hunters it was for money and they did not want to chase after it further than they already had.
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Post by jimiowa on Dec 22, 2009 12:22:55 GMT -5
I certainly can not agree with your view Red. Must be a lot different in Missouri than here. I heard a lot of stories of the "good old days" with my dad growing up during the depression and war years. When if you bought a box of .22 shorts(Cheapest then) and if you did not get a rabbit with every shot you wasted ammo. And there was not meat on the table for one meal. I probalbly have more .22 rimfire ammo on hand right now than my father saw in all his youth and teen years. Also I have told before that my dad was 14 before he ever saw a deer in SE Iowa(they were that scarce). If a man shot one, he would surely track it down, there were several meals there. They were out on the farm and may not get to town for a month. No stopping at the grocery store for a pound of hamburger, cause they were too lazy to track the game they shot. I really don't believe the Buffalo Hunters were that wasteful of powder and lead either. If anyones ethics are in question it would be wasteful modern hunters With their spray(the countryside) and pray(they hit something) tactics.
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Post by jabba on Dec 22, 2009 12:37:32 GMT -5
When the white tails were rare... and they hunted them all the time... if someone found deer tracks in the snow... they followed them till they killed it. Period. So yeah... they followed blood trails.
When I started hunting deer in Indiana, in about 1982, it was abuck only state, and only ONE. If you SAW a buck to shoot during the season, it was good. You could only kill a doe with a bow back then, and then, only in special places. If you wounded a deer, you tracked it and recovered it.
If anything, I think we're lazier trackers today than ever before. We found one two weekends ago, that we had almost given up on 2 different times. but eventually found the trail again.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Dec 22, 2009 13:01:59 GMT -5
My dad didn't even know there was such thing as hunting seasons until the mid 70's ;D
For several generations all they did was feed the cattle in the pasture. And the few times a year they saw a deer, they slipped a slug in that 1897, and popped off a shot. If the deer fell in the field, they'd drive and get it. If it didn't, they went back to feeding the cattle.
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Post by jabba on Dec 22, 2009 14:36:49 GMT -5
For some reason... that doesn't surprise me one little bit.
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