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Post by Purebred Redneck on Apr 8, 2009 19:34:24 GMT -5
Anyone try these shells? I need to buy another box of something before the season. They are the cheapest shells on the market at $11.99 (compared to $18-20) nickle plated 3 1/2" 2 3/8 oz Yes, that would be 3/8 more than most other 3 1/2" shells ! Probably looking for #6's What else can you say --- you'd have a 5 foot wall of pellets ;D ;D ;D Reviews on cabelas was pretty decent. Tight patterns in some guns, poor patterns in others. Of course that doesn't mean anything either way. If they have them in stock (yeah right) I might buy a box.
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Post by Bill on Apr 9, 2009 8:34:53 GMT -5
Great ammo. Hard shot, great patterns. Try it you will like it.
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Post by jimiowa on Apr 9, 2009 8:54:14 GMT -5
For the Masochist this would be a great load!! It should kill from both ends of the shotgun?
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Post by klsm54 on Apr 9, 2009 11:19:43 GMT -5
Yeah Red! They ought to be just the ticket. Those armor plated Missouri birds take a lot of shot to bring down..... ;D ;D
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Post by jmarriott on Apr 9, 2009 12:37:38 GMT -5
Might look at Kent shells in #5 also.
Not the shot in them as the Fiocchi but they do patern well in my 870.
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Post by bounce on Apr 9, 2009 14:25:44 GMT -5
Fiocchi go bang most of the time in my 9mm shotgun, would be interesting to watch you with the loads you want when one din't go off................LOL.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Apr 11, 2009 18:57:20 GMT -5
I bought a box of #6's. They're made right here in Missouri so one would think they are decent quality. They advertize at 1200 fps which sounds pretty slow - of course it's a very heavy load. I think if you hit a bird's head 15 times at 50-55 yards it's going no where but down. I'll probably fire a shot at dad's tomorrow at 50 yards and see what I have.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Apr 12, 2009 22:19:18 GMT -5
Very disappointing That great big load at 50 yards only hit a 8x11 sheet of paper 25 times. It only hit the turkey head/neck 4 times. Had it been a turkey, I think it probably would of killed it on that particular shot. However, there were HUGE holes in the pattern where the bird wouldn't of been hit at all. For a comparison, the 2 oz winchester loads of #6 can hit the 8x11 60 times. I have 6 winchesters which I will go through first. Then I have 2 federals which shoot decent. If those 8 shots are gone, then I'll limit these Fiocchi to 40 yards only. Not too happy. 20% more shot. 60% less hits.
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Post by jimiowa on Apr 12, 2009 22:40:40 GMT -5
I suspected that. Might try them with a modified or even improved CYl choke?? Cramping that much shot down in a full or extra full choke could blow holes in the pattern.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Apr 12, 2009 23:15:56 GMT -5
I didn't shoot it on a big piece of cardboard (and I probably don't have time to make adjustments to the sights anyway). All I did was tape a turkey target on an empty oil box. But there was no evidence to suggest it was shooting up, down, left, or right. If you divide the box in 4, pellets evenly hit it.
I might try to find time to shoot it in the full choke this week and see if there's any improvements. When you switch down to the more open choke though, I see no real advantages because you would likely be hitting the target the same number of times as you would with the 2oz load with the extra full. I guess you have a little more room for error on the running shots though.
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Post by jimh on Apr 13, 2009 10:58:40 GMT -5
Red, you can shoot these loads out of a tighter choke than full if the choke is designed for the heavyshot (or generic equivilent). since the shot is as hard as steel you can't choke it down as fast. the degree of tapper needs to be done over a longer length to give the shot the room to re-arange. you shoot that stuff out of a choke not designed for it and you can put a bulge in your choke that will cause it to shoot your lead shot poorly. it may very well have been hitting much lower that the lead stuff since it was going slower and all you were seeing is a few of the shots from the fringe of the pattern. you need to pattern the whole shot.
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Post by jimiowa on Apr 13, 2009 20:00:39 GMT -5
The shot would string out and as Jim said could be shooting the majority of the string low. My thinking was less restriction in the choke would not bottle up the load as much causing more to hit in the point of aim. We need to get Bill in on this one. He's patterend a lot mor shotgun loads than most of us and might have some ideas.
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Post by jimh on Apr 13, 2009 20:32:13 GMT -5
Red, i might be a bit confused here. at first i thought these were a hevi shot type load but after rereading your first post i'm inclined to think that they are a lead shot with a nickle plating, is that correct?
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Post by jmarriott on Apr 13, 2009 20:54:23 GMT -5
Yeah there nickel plated shot.
Try the Kent Shells.
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Post by jimh on Apr 13, 2009 21:28:58 GMT -5
how much harder are they than the copper plated shot? just curious. Red again a different choke (either more open or tighter) may make a big differance with that brand. it may just want to be constricted in a bit differant manner. and if those loads are going slower than the other brands but with the same wt payload, then yea it could very much be hitting a lot lower. you could have actualy a decent pattern but you have no idea because you didn't pattern it on something to see for your self.
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