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Post by jimh on Jun 22, 2007 8:01:40 GMT -5
ok this is for bill's sake as i know he loves snakes ;D so last night we (the family) head out to summer camp for family night and the OA ceramony (Boy Scouts). we get there and get filled in on all the stuff that has happened since we dropped them off this past Sun. anyway on wed. some dumb kid got bit by a copperhead on the hand and had to be taken to the hospital. i guess he thought he was like the guy on tv and could just pick it up by the tail and grab it's head. that worked but he grabed a few inches back from the head which allowed the snake to turn and sink it's fangs into his hand. so there we where last night my son in scouts fishing, and my younger son and another 7 yr old trying to catch frogs by the water. my son hooked a small bass and since they were'nt jumping into the boat to say (we where on land, it's just an expression) we decided to head back up to camp. my 7 yr old turns around and takes two steps and say's "WOW Dad a snake" as i look down the thing is going on right through his legs, and yep it's a copperhead. we call up to camp and others came down to see it (my wife at this point is in a full run the other way ) we keep our distance but let everyone have a good look so they know what one looks like. did i mention the last 3-4 years in a row we end up in the ER with my youngest in the month of june? i guess we dodged a bullet this year.
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Post by klsm54 on Jun 22, 2007 11:11:19 GMT -5
.... I assume you called the others to look at it AFTER it was thoroughly DEAD!... I see absolutely no reason to let any snake live to slither another day....especially a poisonous one...
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Post by jimh on Jun 22, 2007 11:17:01 GMT -5
can't do that, they are protected and as a assitant scout master i would have been in big trouble for killing it. now had there not been any witnesses who knows what would have happened.
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Post by bounce on Jun 22, 2007 14:43:05 GMT -5
[protected] ? Words will do no good hear. Like so manything today, everything right is wrong & everything wrong is right.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Jun 22, 2007 17:45:30 GMT -5
Yeah you couldn't really kill it because of the scout stuff and all. But other than that, dead snake - protected or not
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Post by jimh on Jun 23, 2007 7:54:08 GMT -5
Red, if i am anywhere alse that is a dead copperhead. it may have even bit the dust had no one been around, but that's how it goes though. however i don't kill any snake, just the venomous (sp?) ones. i wish i could get a large black snake to take up residence around my garden. dang field mice keep coming over from my neighbors place and a cat wont work. well it would work until i took it out for target practice anyway. i'm alergic to cats and if i could get just an outside cat i would but the midgets would have it in the house when i wasn't looking and that would be all she wrote for that tabby.
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Post by klsm54 on Jun 23, 2007 13:19:33 GMT -5
Protected.... Freakin' dumbass tree huggers.... Somebody ought to get about a bushell of Copperheads and throw 'em in a dark closet with the jokers who dreamed up something a stupid as protecting a poisonus snake...
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Post by dutchtrapper on Jun 23, 2007 14:34:58 GMT -5
:oLast year i was hunting and camping out in Australia, in the nothern ter. This was snake country nr1, the number 1 till 6 of the deadliest land snakes you could find here!!!! (remember that i am from Holland where you could only found 1 poisened snake, and that i have never seen that one) In Australia the snakes where also protected by law! We saw some snakes while stalking including the taipan. Getting bit in this area = the end, nearby hospital is about 500 km away. One night while spotlighting we get onto this fellow. We had some aboriginal kids, they jumped from the car and where trying to play with it. That night i did an extra check if i had closed my tent
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Post by jimh on Jun 23, 2007 15:06:21 GMT -5
Scott, all snakes in missouri are protected, unless you feel your life is in danger.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Jun 23, 2007 15:34:43 GMT -5
It's a good thing that I'm a little girl and think my life's in danger. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by dakota on Jun 23, 2007 15:48:29 GMT -5
Just South of Wall, SD is one of my favorite antelope hunting areas. There are a ton of Rattle snakes there. During antelope season, it seems the snakes are getting together in the caverns and gully's. One year we killed dozens of rattle snakes. It all started when I left camp about 100 yards and had my jeans down by my ankels. As I was bending over I heard a rattle within a foot or two of my rear end. --- I can jump fairly well for an old man with jeans around my ankles. --- The rest of the hunters in camp came back as they heard my model 19 go off 6 times in a row in rapid succession. We found snakes in balls and found a 12 gauge is quite effective. That night I slept in the back of my pickup and there was a large rattle snake under the bed in the morning. If those snakes were protected, then the protection was rather poor.
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Post by jimh on Jun 23, 2007 16:34:07 GMT -5
well the #2 midget got home safe today so the big bad copperhead didn't get him when he went fishing yesterday. as his older brother did last year he too did the mile swim yesterday and is proud of finishing it (as he should be) he said he caught a couple more bass yesterday but nothing big. when i asked him about how he felt about the snakes, he said he didn't mind them near as much as the family of racoons that tried to crawl in bed with him last night.
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Post by klsm54 on Jun 23, 2007 21:32:40 GMT -5
Well then....I would be justified in killing any snake... My life is in danger any time I see a snake closer than in a magazine, or on TV... ......because just like Red, I'm a little girl and could suffer cardiac arrest if a 6" Red Bellied Racer gets within 10 yards of me........ ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Bill on Aug 16, 2007 11:16:21 GMT -5
Spent most of my life trying to slow down the sudden urge to RUN when I see a snake. Just long enough to kill that sucker before I do run. Had the darnest thing happen the other day. Molly was barking in the front yard so the wife went out to see what was going on. She hollered at me to come and see and what I found was two garter snakes locked jaw to jaw like one was trying to kill the other. Grabbed the tail on one and threw them still hooked together out into the street. The littlest one finally let go and slithered off but it took a long time for the bigger one to come around and do the same. Just like it had been smothered or something. Still ain't figured out what was going on though. Neither one was all that big. Maybe 12 and 14 inches was all.
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Post by deputydon on Aug 16, 2007 12:14:46 GMT -5
better them than Rattalin' ones
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