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Post by jabba on Sept 17, 2007 10:59:18 GMT -5
Lori likes her new (to us) Suburban. It's a nice car... but I will not call it a truck. It's 4x4, but as far as I am concerned, it's for the 3 or 4 snowy days a year.
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Post by bullseye on Sept 17, 2007 13:16:59 GMT -5
I know of many people that have trucks and SUVs and really don't have them because of what they haul or pull with them. They have them because that is what they wanted to buy. We still do have that choice.
While most 1/2 ton trucks will haul the smaller variety campers and most boats, my 1/2 ton is being planned to be upgraded next year because I combine the two. The camper is on the truck and we haul a bass boat. The combination puts a load on the truck that would be better handled with a 3/4 ton diesel than the 1/2 gas powered truck. I can definitely feel the difference driving today with a fiberglass bass boat on behind vs the old aluminum even thought their physical size was close. I would imagine that my gas mileage would double from what I get now and it wouldn't be taxing the truck components like it does now. Also as Jabba notes the 4 wheel drive and the higher chassis are definite bonuses when it comes to driving in snow storms.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 17, 2007 16:13:10 GMT -5
Another example: the Ford F150
Their v6 engine has for years been a workhorse - providing plenty of power as well as 200,000 worry free miles.
In their truck series, you can not find that engine. They make it but it's pretty much in their bottom line work trucks. The v8 is the standard engine --- which very few people need.
I'm thinking next year I'm going to be buying. My ranger will have almost 80,000 miles (not even half life) by then. It's a 2.3L 4cyl, regular cab, and just 2 wheel. It's not good at acceleration, the two or three weeks a year I go camping it's filled to the top, there may be 1 or 2 times that I couldn't go hunting because of the weather. But all in all, it's served its purpose well the last 7 years. I should still be able to get $4000-4500 for it.
I'm either going to get a 4x4 6cyl explorer (and keep the ranger) or a 4x4 extended cab F150. I can get the F-150 for right at $20,000 next fall. And I will drive the balls off that for 15 years. I'm leaning towards the Explorer because the truck is too damned big. There is suppost to be a 09 model change I hear, so I may wait and see the new design. For has also been talking for the last 10 years about getting into the midsized truck catagory. That would be perfect.
You don't need a v8 (15-17 mpg) to pull a john boat or camper.
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Post by dovehunter on Sept 18, 2007 9:22:36 GMT -5
I think a lot of people (myself included) are inclined to confuse the word "need" with "want" when they shop for anything. However, when your money (or my money) is paying the tab, that should buy us the privilege making the distinction moot.
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Post by jabba on Sept 18, 2007 12:38:41 GMT -5
Man, I drive an S-10. 4x4, V-6, crew cab, but S-10 nonetheless. I like it, but ya know... the MPG on it sux too. I get about 15 most of the time. I need to take it into the dealer and get the air injection pump fixed, but I am scared of the $1000 bill.
OOOOF.
Jabba
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Post by dovehunter on Sept 18, 2007 14:21:52 GMT -5
jabba:
I had an '84 GMC S-15 4x4 with the (I think) 2.8 litre V-6. The best gas mileage it ever got was about 15-16 on the road. I didn't really think it all that bad at the time since my son's '83 Ranger 2WD with the 2.3 litre 4-cyl. would get about the same. I just figured it was the nature of the breed. My '99 Ranger XLT Super Cab 4x4 with the 4.0 litre V-6 will regularly get 22-23 on the road, which is the best gas mileage I have ever gotten with a 4x4. I just figured the technology had improved over 15 years.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Sept 18, 2007 21:55:33 GMT -5
My 01 ranger - 2.3L will get 18-20mpg in the winter (compresser on) and 21-23 in the summer (because I never put the air on).
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Post by jabba on Sept 19, 2007 9:14:28 GMT -5
My S-10 is a 2001. It's got a messed up air injection pump, which I think messes up the fuel air mixture... and makes it run rich. I think. I have a service engine light on all the time, which when read, is air injection system in the code.
grrrrr.
Jabba
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Post by Bill on Sept 19, 2007 9:47:22 GMT -5
Jabba, you might want to try the O2 sensor first before you have the pump changed. Not sure about the loacation on that truck/engine but on my Ford its in the exaust pipe just ahead of the Y in the exaust pipe. Takes me about 10 minutes to change. Just screws in like a spark plug and has a pigtail on the end of it that plugs into the wiring system and then back to the computer. I can get about 18 MPG with my 95 F150 Supercab 4X4 w/302 V8 engine running highway speeds but about once a year it drops down to 13 mpg and a very noticable loss of power. I go to the parts store grab a 02 sensor and go home and screw it in and back to 18 mpg it goes. It makes the shifts a lot better and back to acting like a V8 it goes.
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Post by jabba on Sept 19, 2007 13:11:04 GMT -5
I had the code read by my next door neighbor, Mr. Goodwrench. The code is specifically Air Injection Pump. Thanks to this thread, I made an appointment to have the pump assessed and adjusted tomorrow at the dealership. Mr. Goodwrench told me that the pump was working, it just needed adjusted.
We'll see how it goes tomorrow.
I'll let ya'll know.
Jabba
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Post by jabba on Sept 19, 2007 13:12:18 GMT -5
By the way Bill, if you blow an O2 sensor every year... it sounds like there is something CAUSING it to go. You are bandaiding a problem somewhere.
Maybe that's appropriate... maybe not.
Just a thought.
Jabba
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Post by jimiowa on Sept 19, 2007 22:25:05 GMT -5
I am also driving a 96 S-10, 2wd 2.5 four cyl 5 speed manual. Runs 23-28mpg, 23 if I run 70+ and around 25-28 if I run 60-65. I also short shift to keep the revs down and torque it up to speed. It has 177,000 on it and is still fine transportation. Seem to me the seats are getting thin(springs wore out?). And with a 6ft box, it's kind of useless to haul building materials. I've never been a Chevy man, but I have been happy with this one. When she gives out I'll replace it with another in it's size class(but I want a longer box) pretty sure it will be a Toyota.
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Post by Bill on Sept 20, 2007 0:51:19 GMT -5
Your right Jabba ;D It has a slight oil leak in the pan. Gasket slipped. Oil leaks down the wiring to the O2 sensor and kills it after a while. ;D I have been meaning to get that fixed too.
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Post by deputydon on Sept 22, 2007 8:02:53 GMT -5
I just want to know.. Will you let us know if the "Sub" bombs ? That that I would rub it in I just think it would be fair....
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Post by bounce on Sept 22, 2007 8:54:29 GMT -5
Just so you know D*D, I had better step on it and get more post in for that cetificat of $25 for ford parts. more guys are bucking you this time!!!! LOL
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