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Post by flint on Dec 23, 2005 17:29:50 GMT -5
Hi good people , ( there may be females out there ) I make no secret of the fact that I have a well equiped work shop and just love to make things ..So I wondered if there are any other compulsive shade tree mechanics out there ...My present project , I have a Remington 510 bolt and a B.S.A target barrel that has has had about 18 inches of the rifiling bored out to make it a bloop tube that the owner no longer wants , I have shortened the bored out portion of barrel to about 10 inches threaded the muzzle end and screwed a plug into it with a hole just over bore size so that I have a barrel with an integral sound moderator ..The action caused me a bit of head scratching but is well on the way , got the blank bored and the front end threaded , the loading port cut and the bolt fitted .. Yet to make is a trigger , bolt stop , and maybe stock ,just might adapt some thing I have in the oneday box ... Before the questions start , I will say that the use a sound moderator (silencer) here in New Zealand is legal and becoming almost necessary with life style blocks ( that's where city slickers pretend to be country folks) springing up all over , so that you can't shoot a rabbit now , where once you could have held a full scale service match , without one of these newbie country folk calling out the armed offenders sqad ( the swat team) because they heard shooting , hell if some old lady see's you waving a gun or even something that looks like a gun in your back yard you just could get a visit from mister plod and his men in black , so a sillencer that doesn't look like one just might help ... Also made a rifling rig , a loading press , some chamber reamers and 2 different extractors for rimmless cartridges in martini action rifles ..Just can't pass up a challenge , must be something to do with being left handed ..Flint
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Post by jimiowa on Dec 23, 2005 20:17:51 GMT -5
Nothing nearly as ambitious as your project.
I do have a Ruger 10/22 with many bolt on modifications. Barrel, stock and trigger.
Unfortunately, In the US supressors are heavily restricted. In many states they are not legal at all, and in those states where they are legal there is a heavy registration fee. And in many states that do allow them, they are illegal for hunting purposes.
They became illegal at the same time, autoloading firearms were made illegal. My suspicion is because they were used in organized crime.
I wonder if they will become more accepted as populations grow in many areas, but would be surprized to see it in my lifetime.
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Dec 23, 2005 21:03:26 GMT -5
They became illegal at the same time, autoloading firearms were made illegal. My suspicion is because they were used in organized crime. Yeah, organized crime got the blame for the gun bans, but it's UNorganized crime that actually caused it. Organized crime targeted only police and government officials - in other words, citizens in a bank that was being robbed were not going to be shot. It's the little guys that caused the gun ban because they did have the tendincy to "accidently" kill citizens. but not to change the subject... |
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Post by jimiowa on Dec 23, 2005 23:40:18 GMT -5
[quote Yeah, organized crime got the blame for the gun bans, but it's UNorganized crime that actually caused it. Organized crime targeted only police and government officials - in other words, citizens in a bank that was being robbed were not going to be shot. It's the little guys that caused the gun ban because they did have the tendincy to "accidently" kill citizens. but not to change the subject... Huh? You mean it was`nt the Dillengers and Bonnie & Clyde or Machinegun Kelly or untold others ? Or the Gang Wars in the Cities That caused our government to make the Tommygun illegal? ;D Funny, I can remember my aunt Dorothy talking about how scared she was while standing across the street when Dillenger robbed the Bussey State Bank. |
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Post by flint on Dec 28, 2005 4:35:01 GMT -5
I was sure that some posters would have enough skills to make some thing from scratch or convert some
unrelated pieces into a safe and useable firearm and a .22 is about the easiest to put together .. Pity I drew a blank ..Flint
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Post by bounce on Dec 28, 2005 9:30:10 GMT -5
flint I do have a 1874 springfield 45-70 that two moons made a .22. he milled a liner from a springfield .22 and cut the trap door in to a carbine and lined the barrel with the homemade liner and re did the extractor for .22 so he is at least one guy on hear that can do the stuff your thinking of.
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Post by Jack on Dec 28, 2005 11:52:29 GMT -5
Bounce, a 45 bore relined to .22.......wow! That must be a heavy weight!
Pretty neat, tho, a Trapdoor .22.
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Post by bounce on Dec 28, 2005 12:57:38 GMT -5
The heavyest part of it I notice jack is the big heavy hammer when it falls it pushes you a little forward and thoughs tack driveing shots off a little!! Just more hammer than I can handel well. But it shoots very good and is a fun change of pace. Get's one's attechen when they don't know it is not a 45 anymore and you fire a little snap!!
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Post by twomoons on Dec 28, 2005 13:52:44 GMT -5
Any modification to a firearm that decreases the report to a significant degree is considered a silencer under federal law. Possession of an unregistered silencer or PARTS to manufacture such silencer are a 10 year vacation in a federal pen. Before yo are allowed to manufacture youneed to file a form with the ATF under go a backround and submit your plans. When you have your certificate in hand then you can start your work. The words integral sound moderator sound a whole lot like pen time to me. If I had such a critter and ANYONE knew I had it it would be torched in a heartbeat.
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Post by bounce on Dec 28, 2005 15:54:25 GMT -5
Like I said, Two moons Knows all about modifiying...lol
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Dec 28, 2005 19:27:32 GMT -5
I was sure that some posters would have enough skills to make some thing from scratch or convert some unrelated pieces into a safe and useable firearm and a .22 is about the easiest to put together .. Pity I drew a blank ..Flint You know, it's not that we don't have the skills (myself excluded), it's just that this site (and the prevouis one) tends to focus on straight factory guns and weekend hunting. I think the site is more interested in goofing off than serouis embarking on a project. Simply put, we aren't rimfire central, benchrest, or even the big ones like HC or the headache over at HA. |
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Post by jimiowa on Dec 28, 2005 23:35:59 GMT -5
We need to remember that Flint is halfway around the world in New Zealand a country that not only allows the use of surpressors but encourages it.
Flint correct if I`m wrong, but I suspect that based on your mention of the exorbinate prices of black powder down there. That Rifles, parts and supplies are in short supply or very high priced and possibly heavily regulated.
That would logically be more condusive to experimentation and home shop gunsmithing?
I have to admit, that interests me, but my busy schedule has not allwed a lot of time to experiment in much more than bedding and other elementary repairs that fall more in the area of tuning.
So I have not invested in machining equipment.
I not only see nothing wrong with your experiments but am greatly interested in hearing how the hobby differs from that we experience here in the states.
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Post by flint on Dec 29, 2005 17:22:30 GMT -5
Hi Jimiowa , you are mostly right , rilfes and supplies are very high priced , a ruger 10/22RB costs $539.an all weather K10/22RP is $689.. I was quoted $130 for the supply of a .17 cal cleaning rod ,I am still laughing ..
parts are hard to get and expensive , cost me $350 for a bolt with a .222 bolt face for a Brno Fox and the same price for a bolt for a Weatherby Vanguard , any wonder I might make and put together some parts .. N.Z is supposed to be a nation of do it yourself experimenters , here they call it #8 wire technology , but ( a lot of things get held toghether by #8 wire ) ..Sorry I mentioned the suppresor thing but quite an industry is getting built up here with at least 3 manufacturers advertising nationally suppresors for centerfire rifles , If you have ever fired a big centerfire , under heavy bush , over dogs , you and your dogs might just appreciate the benifits of a little noise control ... I have just been to a property of about 20 acres , where they have a rabitt plague with neighbours houses close by , to reduce the numbers as best I could .. I had to fit a suppresor and use subsonic rounds , this also meant that I had to make all my shots within about 50 yards and head shoot so that nothing escaped into the neighbours property , and I don't think they even knew I was there neither did the surviving rabitts... Do we have a forum where we can discuss how our hobbies differ ..Flint
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Post by Purebred Redneck on Dec 29, 2005 19:29:55 GMT -5
Do we have a forum where we can discuss how our hobbies differ ..Flint nope, sure don't... lol ;D Feel free to post anything you want in the most appropriate forum. The site's so small most people read virtually every new post anyway. |
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Post by jimiowa on Dec 29, 2005 19:33:04 GMT -5
Not one in particular, But if you see a post that seems different than your familiar with, by all means contribute.
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